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Old 06-27-2021, 05:25 PM
 
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The Bible does not mention smoking, or other means of using tobacco. However, it contains principles showing that God does not approve of unhealthy and unclean habits and thus views smoking as a sin.

Respect for life. “God . . . gives to all people life and breath.” (Acts 17:24, 25) Since life is a gift from God, we should not do anything that would shorten our life, such as smoking. Smoking is one of the main causes of preventable death worldwide.

Love of neighbor. “You must love your neighbor as yourself.” (Matthew 22:39) Smoking around others does not show love. Those who are routinely subjected to secondhand smoke are at higher risk of some of the same diseases that smokers often suffer from.

The need to be holy. “Present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God.” (Romans 12:1) “Let us cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” (2 Corinthians 7:1) Smoking is unnatural and incompatible with being holy—that is, clean and pure—because tobacco users intentionally consume toxins that seriously damage their body.

How do you feel about it?
If you lead another to harm their body then that is a bad example, not loving your neighbor and therefore not loving God. Now that concept applies to more than just smoking. I have been guilty of that for many years until several years ago. Drinking from the biblical perspective is negative in general, Noah became drunk after the flood and then what happened? Negative consequences. It took me a long time to realize social drinking is a sin within itself. How many people can be effected by one drunk getting in a car?

Satan wants us to have vices that destroy the temple of God which is our bodies, that includes smoking, drinking, eating bad, any unhealthy lifestyle habits, etc.
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Old 06-27-2021, 05:53 PM
 
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If you lead another to harm their body then that is a bad example, not loving your neighbor and therefore not loving God. Now that concept applies to more than just smoking. I have been guilty of that for many years until several years ago. Drinking from the biblical perspective is negative in general, Noah became drunk after the flood and then what happened? Negative consequences. It took me a long time to realize social drinking is a sin within itself. How many people can be effected by one drunk getting in a car?

Satan wants us to have vices that destroy the temple of God which is our bodies, that includes smoking, drinking, eating bad, any unhealthy lifestyle habits, etc.
You just implied that Jesus was a sinner since he drank wine. And not only that, but you implied that Jesus tempted others to sin when he turned water into wine.

What a load of legalistic nonsense.
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Old 06-27-2021, 05:55 PM
 
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In response to the OP question;

See 1 Corinthians 6:12.
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Old 06-27-2021, 06:22 PM
 
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You just implied that Jesus was a sinner since he drank wine. And not only that, but you implied that Jesus tempted others to sin when he turned water into wine.

What a load of legalistic nonsense.
Wine was an ambiguous word, you show your lack of understanding of the language. If you would like a discussion on wine then I would be glad to educate you.
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Old 06-27-2021, 06:27 PM
 
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See 1 Corinthians 6:12.
Addiction makes it a sin as with anything else.
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Old 06-27-2021, 06:28 PM
 
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Wine was an ambiguous word, you show your lack of understanding of the language. If you would like a discussion on wine then I would be glad to educate you.
The wine was alcoholic. Jesus was accused of being a drunkard. The disciples in Acts chapter two were accused of being drunk. Ephesians 5:18 says not to be drunk on wine.

It requires alcohol to get drunk. Concern yourself with your own lack of understanding.
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Old 06-27-2021, 06:48 PM
 
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you just implied that jesus was a sinner since he drank wine. And not only that, but you implied that jesus tempted others to sin when he turned water into wine.

What a load of legalistic nonsense.
Hmmm
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Old 06-27-2021, 06:52 PM
 
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Wine was an ambiguous word, you show your lack of understanding of the language. If you would like a discussion on wine then I would be glad to educate you.
It’s not just wine ........ blindness, baptism, lameness, etc
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Old 06-27-2021, 06:57 PM
 
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Hmmm
Jesus himself said that he was accused of being a drunkard.

Matthew 11:19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ Yet wisdom is justified by her deeds.”
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Old 06-27-2021, 07:03 PM
 
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The wine was alcoholic. Jesus was accused of being a drunkard. The disciples in Acts chapter two were accused of being drunk. Ephesians 5:18 says not to be drunk on wine.

It requires alcohol to get drunk. Concern yourself with your own lack of understanding.
You cannot prove it was alcohol, Jesus would never drink alcohol (Lk. 1:15) and He would never put a stumbling block before man. The very implication is irrefutable. Drunkeness is a sin, the Messiah would NEVER lead a soul to sin. He was accused of being a glutton and drunkard by who???

..... it was the Pharisees who accused Him, why would they have done that? Because they hated Him. Read the context next time.

Acts, the apostles were mocked by some and they claimed they were drunk. Like I said read the context, you are killing me here with your absurd statements. Teenagers can figure this stuff out for themselves. There is no reason you can't, other than the pride of life that will lead to your destruction.

Rom. 13:13-14 shows us not to get drunk since it causes sexual promiscuous actions and thoughts

Rom. 14:13 shows us not to put a stumbling block in our brothers way.

There is nothing to glorify God and Christ by social drinking, it promotes wickedness and harm and death every single day around this world and here you are promoting this harm and death! How many children are killed by a social drinker who was influenced by another who said its all ok? Answer that.

That is the devil who wants people to think that way, not God. How many children are molested because people drink?

How many families are destroyed by drinking?

How many physical and mental abuses are caused by drinking?

How many people lose their jobs and ruin their life because of drinking?

And here you are defending the very essence of all this enormous chaos that only serves Satan.
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