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It is written that in the last days men will not endure sound doctrine but will heap to themselves teachers to tell them what their itching ears want to hear.
Given that sound doctrine is defined as biblical doctrine, the false teaching that people's ears are "itching for" would have to be something that denies biblical doctrine and takes the rug out from under the preaching of what we might call sound doctrine.
It is MysticPhD's preaching that does this most succinctly.
Now all of the Bible is not the determinant of sound doctrine; but now we can take our own predetermined bias against the justice and wrath of Almighty God, and judge the Bible to be untrue inasmuch as it teaches these things.
It is truly what itching ears want to hear, that God has no wrath or justice against sin; and that there is therefore no accountabillity for a sinful lifestyle within the realm of what we might call sound doctrine.
Because sound doctrine ceases to be defined as biblical doctrine and is re-defined as "that which lines up with God's agape love". Translation: if there is anything I don't like in scripture because it makes me feel bad, or if there is anything that speaks of judgment or the wrath of God, I can discount it in my thinking because it doesn't line up with my idea of what God's agape love is all about.
What this will do is create a people who has no fear of the LORD and therefore has no wisdom (Job 28:28).
They will walk headlong into the fires of judgment thinking that there is no such thing as the fire of judgment.
And satan will attempt to say that God tricked these people by leading them to believe that the fires of judgment do not exist when in fact they do exist.
When in all reality it was the devil who deceived them into thinking that there were no fires of judgment.
When God gave ample warning to all, in the context of His word, that His judgment is certain; and these people ignored the preaching that told them the truth of the matter and heaped to themselves teachers to tell them what their itching ears wanted to hear.
You sound like the little boy who kept shaking the bush.
It is MysticPhD's preaching that does this most succinctly.
Now all of the Bible is not the determinant of sound doctrine; but now we can take our own predetermined bias against the justice and wrath of Almighty God, and judge the Bible to be untrue inasmuch as it teaches these things.
It is truly what itching ears want to hear, that God has no wrath or justice against sin; and that there is, therefore, no accountability for a sinful lifestyle within the realm of what we might call sound doctrine.
You need to stop LYING about my views, JBF. God will NOT be pleased with a liar. It is not my own predetermined bias, it is the unambiguous demonstration of God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness on the Cross. Jesus is God in the Flesh. His Spirit is God's Spirit. He showed no evidence or even a hint of wrath or vengeance in Him on the Cross.
He also told us that God IS agape love, not that God HAS agape love, but that God IS agape love. God would not have wrath that is against His very essence!!! God is not angry with us and never has been! He loves us more than we are capable of understanding.
There ARE negative consequences and accountability for a sinful lifestyle, but they are NOT eternal and unending as you demand they be, JBF. They also have no impact on our salvation. We have nothing to do with that. Jesus saved us and it is finished!!! What God wants from us is the same agape love of God and each other that Jesus demonstrated on the Cross. If we get in the states of mind associated with agape love as often as possible with a love of God and each other every day, we can do no wrong, period!
When we fail, we can repent and repair the damage so there is nothing to fear. Our savage ancestors needed a fear of God to tame their savagery. We do not. Love casts out all fear so the true evangels of Christ will promote God's love. But fear casts out love, so avoid the messages of the adversary-inspired fear-mongers.
You need to stop LYING about my views, JBF. God will NOT be pleased with a liar. It is not my own predetermined bias, it is the unambiguous demonstration of God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness on the Cross. Jesus is God in the Flesh. His Spirit is God's Spirit. He showed no evidence or even a hint of wrath or vengeance in Him on the Cross.
He also told us that God IS agape love, not that God HAS agape love, but that God IS agape love. God would not have wrath that is against His very essence!!! God is not angry with us and never has been! He loves us more than we are capable of understanding.
There ARE negative consequences and accountability for a sinful lifestyle, but they are NOT eternal and unending as you demand they be, JBF. They also have no impact on our salvation. We have nothing to do with that. Jesus saved us and it is finished!!! What God wants from us is the same agape love of God and each other that Jesus demonstrated on the Cross. If we get in the states of mind associated with agape love as often as possible with a love of God and each other every day, we can do no wrong, period!
When we fail, we can repent and repair the damage so there is nothing to fear. Our savage ancestors needed a fear of God to tame their savagery. We do not. Love casts out all fear so the true evangels of Christ will promote God's love. But fear casts out love, so avoid the messages of the adversary-inspired fear-mongers.
No, nowhere in scripture does it say that fear cast out love. It says that love casts out fear. But not the fear of the Lord; otherwise love is conducive to foolishness (Job 28:28); because the fear of the Lord is wisdom and if love casts out the fear of the Lord, then love casts out wisdom.
I have not been lying about your views; but you have been presenting a dishonest presentation of your views; saying that you believe that you are testing the scriptures by God's agape love. I will say that your idea of God's agape love is skewed because you seem to think that it doesn't include real justice and/or the wrath of God as demonstrated by Jesus Christ when He returns to earth (Revelation 6:12-17).
Again, you have concocted an idol in your mind and have called it Jehovah; but it is certainly a different Jesus than the Jesus of the Bible that you believe in. Therefore your mind has been corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ (2 Corinthians 11:3-4).
That God has wrath, anger, and justice against sin is evident in such passages as Psalms 5:5-6, 7:11, 11:5, and Nahum 1:2-3. This is not an exhaustive list.
And I certainly do not demand that the consequences for sin be eternal. If it were up to me, I would love it if everyone who was punished were only punished temporally. It is just that that is not the teaching of the Bible.
For it is clear to me that if Matthew 25:46 merely speaks of age-during punishment, then John 3:16 merely speaks of age-during life; and that means that the recipients of the promise will be snuffed out after an indefinite period of time. And I believe that that is preaching everlasting punishment for those who are redeemed!
Because what does it feel like for one's life to be snuffed out? Have you ever tried to hold your breath for more than five minutes?
Have you ever tried to hold your breath for more than five minutes?
I know a young lady in the Hawaiian Islands who holds her breath for over six minutes, while swimming in the Ocean and holding onto Great Whites, her name is Ocean Ramsey. She is also a Dive Master and a shark advocate, among other things. And, a great person!
I know a young lady in the Hawaiian Islands who holds her breath for over six minutes, while swimming in the Ocean and holding onto Great Whites, her name is Ocean Ramsey. She is also a Dive Master and a shark advocate, among other things. And, a great person!
Jesus is the Official Dive Master that Rescues ALL OF HUMANITY!
The Bible is one of many wisdom teachings that adopted richly from other wisdom teachings. God speaks through many avatars, Moses being one, Christ being one, Buddha, Muhammed. Then the wisdom gets mutilated by men seeking power over others, like "Saint" Paul who saw a perfect opportunity to take power over Christ's disciples. (I've read both testaments at numerous times and have yet to make sense of Christianity from my readings.)
As far as I can tell, like the American Constitution, the Bible needs an update. Apparently modern man cannot understand that the writers of the Bible used existing historic myths and parables to guide their communities on a righteous path. It is meant to address an individual, not an entire people. Those that want a literal interpretation need to go back and read the history of the Bible, and re-read the testaments as a spiritual guidance for them, the reader. It was never intended to be used as a bludgeon on others.
The Bible is one of many wisdom teachings that adopted richly from other wisdom teachings. God speaks through many avatars, Moses being one, Christ being one, Buddha, Muhammed. Then the wisdom gets mutilated by men seeking power over others, like "Saint" Paul who saw a perfect opportunity to take power over Christ's disciples. (I've read both testaments at numerous times and have yet to make sense of Christianity from my readings.)
As far as I can tell, like the American Constitution, the Bible needs an update. Apparently modern man cannot understand that the writers of the Bible used existing historic myths and parables to guide their communities on a righteous path. It is meant to address an individual, not an entire people. Those that want a literal interpretation need to go back and read the history of the Bible, and re-read the testaments as a spiritual guidance for them, the reader. It was never intended to be used as a bludgeon on others.
You couldn't have introduced yourself any better for us to know who you are!
"As far as I can tell, like the American Constitution, the Bible needs an update."
Neither say what you want it to say so it needs to be changed! Looks like a problem with discipline to me!
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