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It's the religious hierarchy who have demanded a payment be paid for the last 2,000 years.
But I haven't seen a tax receipt, other than a tax-free, charitable donation for the cause?
That does seem to be the primary motive for retaining such barbaric beliefs about God despite the clear and unambiguous demonstration of God's Holy Spirit of agape love by Jesus, Jer! It definitely drove church membership and they wielded a lot of power for millennia.
If you say that about any part of scripture whatsoever, you have said it about scripture.
There's not going to be an excuse for it at any level, it will not be tolerated, especially when you do it because you don't believe it!
That is an ignorant, irrational, and completely asinine belief, Charlie! No wonder you are so screwed up about God.
For something as trivial as unbelief because they are unwilling to believe God could be such a heinously evil and monstrous egotist who would need to have His own Son scourged and crucified so He could forgive humanity for "whatever" and would eternally punish someone for mere unbelief in such an abomination!!!! That is what you are telling me, Michael????
I'm telling you that mankind is born into a conflict between the forces of God and the forces of Satan and man must choose which side he is on. Belief in Christ is the deciding factor in which side a person is on. And that is why those who choose against Jesus will share the same prison that was prepared for the devil and his angels. There is nothing 'trivial' about the issue of belief or unbelief.
I realize that you cherry pick. Jeremiah 32:35 concerned the Israelites sacrificing their children to Molek. That was what never entered the mind of God. On the other hand, Isaiah 53 is all about the suffering servant offering himself as a guilt offering and pouring himself out to death, bearing the sins of many and interceding for the transgressors. Jesus applied Isaiah 53 to himself.
It was God the Father's plan for Jesus to go to the cross upon which he was crucified in order to bear our sins in his own body. To deny that is to deny the true gospel.
the point was mike that those who worship Moloch believe the same thing you do about God which should be an eye opener or at least make you think.
and I have no problem with Jesus being the suffering servant as he suffer because of our sins.
For something as trivial as unbelief because they are unwilling to believe God could be such a heinously evil and monstrous egotist who would need to have His own Son scourged and crucified so He could forgive humanity for "whatever" and would eternally punish someone for mere unbelief in such an abomination!!!! That is what you are telling me, Michael????
one of the problem here brother is they think faith/belief in Jesus comes before regeneration but it is actually regeneration then faith/belief. They simply have it backwards and because they have it backwards their view of scripture is in error.
I'm telling you that mankind is born into a conflict between the forces of God and the forces of Satan and man must choose which side he is on. Belief in Christ is the deciding factor in which side a person is on. And that is why those who choose against Jesus will share the same prison that was prepared for the devil and his angels. There is nothing 'trivial' about the issue of belief or unbelief.
the dead know nothing mike and cannot make a choice between life and death until after being regenerated.it is only after being regenerated that faith/belief comes into play and the choice is given.
For something as trivial as unbelief because they are unwilling to believe God could be such a heinously evil and monstrous egotist who would need to have His own Son scourged and crucified so He could forgive humanity for "whatever" and would eternally punish someone for mere unbelief in such an abomination!!!! That is what you are telling me, Michael????
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Originally Posted by Michael Way
I'm telling you that mankind is born into a conflict between the forces of God and the forces of Satan and man must choose which side he is on. Belief in Christ is the deciding factor in which side a person is on. And that is why those who choose against Jesus will share the same prison that was prepared for the devil and his angels. There is nothing 'trivial' about the issue of belief or unbelief.
You are the one foolishly relying on fables, old wives' tales, and supernatural superstitions, Michael. That is what corrupts your otherwise more sane beliefs where we tend to agree.
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