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Sure, I don't have a problem with that. The word "apostle" is quite general and doesn't have to have a very specific meaning. It just means "one who is sent".
I've got to disagree, Mike. In the Bible, Christ's Apostles were referred to countless times as "the Twelve," indicating that they were an authoritative body of men who had a role that no one else in the Church did. The word, "apostle" is also used in several places in conjunction with the word "Prophet." I'd say that the word "disciple" is the one that is more general and that just means "follower of Christ."
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I'm glad to see that we can agree on the main principles of Apostolic Succession, even if we differ in the nuances of its application.
Our agreement ought to be a testament to our Protestant friends as evidence that "there's something there" when it comes to Apostolic Succession.
Oh, no Mike! All through the scripture we see the purity and inspiration of scripture, not any history claimed by the RCC.
Babylon is not Rome and no one has ever proven it is. The theologians I have read behind say Babylon in Peter's epistle is just that, the Babylon of old. They say there was a colony there in the first century.
But here again we have history, not a fact from scripture! So the RCC has no hard evidence of their claims, certainly none from scripture!
Rome might not be Babylon but Catholics converted to the Babylonian religion, all their holy days come from Babylon.
Where do you think Sunday Sabbath, Christmas, and Easter come from?
The Northern kingdom of Israel also took on these same holy days and they were ended because of them.
They are vehicles of division.
Sunday is not the Sabbath. Sabbath always has been and always will be Saturday.
We call Sunday "the Lord's Day". It's the day we gather for corporate worship because it's the day Christ rose from the dead.
As for Christmas and Easter; considering the object of our celebration and devotion on these days, why do you consider it problematic to celebrate the birth and resurrection of Christ on days that happen to correspond to former pagan holidays?
Sunday is not the Sabbath. Sabbath always has been and always will be Saturday.
We call Sunday "the Lord's Day". It's the day we gather for corporate worship because it's the day Christ rose from the dead.
As for Christmas and Easter; considering the object of our celebration and devotion on these days, why do you consider it problematic to celebrate the birth and resurrection of Christ on days that happen to correspond to former pagan holidays?
Hanni believes the historical use of the dates for celebration determines what people doing the celebrating are intending to celebrate. Most sane people recognize that what we INTEND to celebrate determines what we are celebrating!
Hanni believes the historical use of the dates for celebration determines what people doing the celebrating are intending to celebrate. Most sane people recognize that what we INTEND to celebrate determines what we are celebrating!
Where do you think Sunday Sabbath, Christmas, and Easter come from?
The Northern kingdom of Israel also took on these same holy days and they were ended because of them.
They are vehicles of division.
And Jesus came to divide
And to unite
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