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Old 10-19-2021, 12:58 AM
 
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Even reading it is not sufficient to know how it actually IS spoken and used with all its cultural idioms and trappings, especially the deeper spiritual meanings within it. How similar is it today to two millennia ago?
That’s where deep study comes in and also a willingness to accept what one finds...Hebrew is a functional language as opposed to an abstract language...
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Old 10-19-2021, 04:07 AM
 
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The Seed is the Elect of God, the Seed of Abraham, and they're not confined unto ethnic jews, but includes Gentiles.
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:08 AM
 
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The Seed is the Elect of God, the Seed of Abraham, and they're not confined unto ethnic jews, but includes Gentiles.
How do you recommend we treat the seed of Satan since they are beyond redemption? Are we to pity them? Or is scorn better? It is futile to love them, correct?
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:31 AM
 
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The Seed is the Elect of God, the Seed of Abraham, and they're not confined unto ethnic jews, but includes Gentiles.
And your point?...
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Old 10-19-2021, 08:34 AM
 
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So, it’s to everyone...
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Old 10-19-2021, 03:27 PM
 
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The Seed is the Elect of God, the Seed of Abraham, and they're not confined unto ethnic jews, but includes Gentiles.
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And your point?...
If you are not selected, then you are SOL...?
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Old 10-22-2021, 12:38 PM
 
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How do you recommend we treat the seed of Satan since they are beyond redemption? Are we to pity them? Or is scorn better? It is futile to love them, correct?
How do you know when one is of the seed of satan ? All men by nature are sinners
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Old 10-24-2021, 03:14 AM
 
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Particular Redemption for Israel the Seed of Abraham

Many in false religion have been deceived into thinking that Christ came to die for all mankind without exception, or that He came to redeem all mankind without exception, yet these are delusions, for He came to redeem and die for a particular people without distinction of any particular nation or ethnicity, a Chosen People called Israel, or the Seed of Abraham,

Hear Ye the scripture Ps 25:22

Redeem Israel, O God, out of all his troubles.

Ps 130:8

And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Gill writes of this verse:

And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities. The Lord shall do it; in whom Israel is encouraged to hope; with whom grace and redemption were; or who was appointed to be the Redeemer. Redemption was then future, when these words were said, but certain, by the promise of God and agreement of Christ; and would be of the whole Israel, or elect of God; and that from "all" their iniquities, original and actual; sins, secret and open, of heart, lip, and life: and which is no small encouragement for Israel to hope in the Lord, for the sake of which this is added; as well as for the further illustration of the nature of redemption by Christ; which is complete, and now obtained, and is an eternal one.

Lk 1:68

Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

This was according to Promise, Israel is the Only People that God has Promised to Redeem, and to Save Isa 45:17

17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

Paul writes that it was a Particular People that Christ came to Redeem here Gal 4:4-5

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

You see that word THEM ? That is a signal word to indicate a specific People, not all without exception, but to a particular THEM, and that them is Israel that was under the Law. Now were all men under this Law ? No, in fact scripture makes it clear that God showed His Law/Word to One specific People only, Israel Ps 147:19-20

19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.

20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the Lord.

His Law was for no other people , nation but Gods Israel

Again Paul writes of who exactly the Law was given to Rom 9:4

Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

And its to these that Christ was made of a women for, made under the Law for, to redeem them that were under the Law that was given them !
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Old 10-24-2021, 06:49 AM
 
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How do you know when one is of the seed of satan ? All men by nature are sinners
True or False statement:

Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.


If true:

Why would satan seed bow and confess to Jesus?

If false:

Why is it in the bible then?

Either God has His knee on their necks or it is voluntary to get the confession. Which one? How does He get every knee to bow? Why does every tongue confess? Do they utter that just before getting tossed into the pit or do they do it because they experience mercy? Which one makes more sense?
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Old 10-24-2021, 03:47 PM
 
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How do you know when one is of the seed of satan ? All men by nature are sinners
No, all men by nature are not sinners, neither is all humanity. But there are a few, extremely wicked people.
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