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The only thing we have to do is trust in the redemptive work of Christ.
Okay. And then what? So you've escaped hellfire and damnation. Is that what it's all about? Was God's purpose in putting you here just to see if you could avoid that fate? And if you do (as supposedly you have), then you've met your goal and God's goal for you?
Okay. And then what? So you've escaped hellfire and damnation. Is that what it's all about? Was God's purpose in putting you here just to see if you could avoid that fate? And if you do (as supposedly you have), then you've met your goal and God's goal for you?
Yes. The subject is salvation. You’re talking about sanctification.
[quote=Thoreau424;62153586]It's not a "work". Not sure where you got that. It's a voluntary act that one has the freedom to do (or not do) in imitation of Christ.[/QUOTE
It’s a well know teaching. Ask any evangelical Christian.
Excellent point there (bolded), MissKate! Welcome to the Forum!
I recommending sticking with what Jesus commands and loving Him - John 14:23!
Most seem to miss this, and likewise miss boarding the Ark!
Thank you for your kind words. I agree with your recommendation.
If baptism is works of Christ along with faith, and prayer then this would be legalism and that would be idolatry, which could happen with people who have no interest and would be pleasing others, Not God .... ``For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves it is a gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast..`` Ephesians 2:9,10
Thank you for your response. I’m thinking baptism is a response to faith. If we truly believe in Jesus, we do what He says.
So what would qualify as "a work" in your opinion? Although I do not agree with them, some people say that anything beyond faith is a "work." I see pretty much any voluntary action we do in imitation of Christ as being a "work of righteousness," and I see absolutely nothing wrong with works of righteousness.
I agree! There is a huge difference between works of faith or righteousness and works of the law, which is the works Paul writes about.
I have heard many say that baptism is a “work.” How is something Jesus commanded a work? How can it be considered “works based salvation?” Can someone give Scriptural support for this teaching? Thanks in advance.
There is-- a mass of confusion in this world because satan is its ruler as Jesus said he was. Baptism is not a work Its a public display of one promising God to be his forever. To many blind guides.
The issue is when we say we must do those thing in order to be saved. How do we know when we've done enough?
Then, of course, we have Galatians 3:1-2 "You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?"
We can never do enough. We are all sinners. However, this does not mean we shouldn’t do our level best to obey the commands of Jesus. Baptism corresponds to the deliverance of Noah and his family from the flood waters. It is an appeal for a good conscience. Our deliverance is made possible by the resurrection of Jesus, by His righteousness and deeds. It is not our work that saves. It is God’s work.
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