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The Apostle Paul definitely knew some pagan literature. For instance, he quotes the poet Aratus of Cilicia in Acts 17:28: “For we are also His offspring.” And he quotes Epimenides, a Cretan poet, in Titus 1:12: “The Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, slow bellies [lazy gluttons].”
Not to take the thread off topic but I am curious. Do you take the two creation stories in Genesis as literal history and do you think there really was a global Noah's flood?
As I said, DONE! We have no common ground for debate. You continuously undermine the word of God. You deny it’s truths.
Perhaps people can put more weight on one tenet or another, but in my view, showing the fruit of the Holy Spirit that was discussed in Galatians might mean that if someone is out showing love on the ground (i.e. helping out when there is an immediate crisis-- think of the helpful actions of different people of faith in natural disasters), that might be superior to being in a safe building around people they normally hang out with when they and their God given gifts are needed somewhere else at the moment.
We must do both. We can’t categorize one being more important than the other. Christians must be fed. Their batteries must be recharged on a regular basis. If all we did was help others, we would suffer in the end. We need one another. We are commanded to assemble for the purpose of exhorting one another. Without our brothers and sisters in Christ, we would suffer.
Right, but my point was if there is a crisis that happens to be happening at the same time as a scheduled church meeting, a person can be worshiping and showing the fruits of the Holy Spirit to others in any setting, not just a church facility if they can't physically be two places at once. The "ox out of the ditch" passage in Luke applies.
And just how often does that happen? What about the rest of the time? That’s the question of the OP.
Right, but my point was if there is a crisis that happens to be happening at the same time as a scheduled church meeting, a person can be worshiping and showing the fruits of the Holy Spirit to others in any setting, not just a church facility if they can't physically be two places at once. The "ox out of the ditch" passage in Luke applies.
You said the written word was only part of it. If you are referring to the oral statements of the Apostles, who spoke by inspiration, then I would agree with you,
Yes, that is what I was referring to.
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Let me be clear. The last Apostle who spoke by inspiration was John. Claims by the RCC of apostolic succession are hogwash.
As I said, DONE! We have no common ground for debate. You continuously undermine the word of God. You deny it’s truths.
No, MissKate. I do not undermine the word of God. Nor do I deny its truths. You're upset because I pointed out that the biblical writers at times quoted from pagan sources. I provided the references to Paul's use of pagan quotes. They are in the Bible.
You appear to have a wooden, overly strict, inflexible fundamentalist view of the Bible. That's unfortunate. You really should start studying what scholarship has to say concerning the Bible. However, suit yourself.
They didn't elect Mathias. They cast lots. And one could suggest that maybe they were wrong to do so, since God then chose Paul as an apostle.
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