Cincinnati-Indianapolis-Chicago high speed rail (Madison, Richmond: best cities, renting, estimates)

[animatedmartian]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

Bigger=Better=BS

This is pretty much backwards thinking. Any small town in America that doesn't have a large college, a large single employer (small businesses are incredibly vulnerable to the economy), strong local tourism, or is even within proximity to a larger metro area is pretty much struggling.

Bigger cities have a wider labor force that employers can choose from which is beneficial to smaller companies looking to grow and allows bigger companies to maintain stable labor costs. Big cities are also better at adapting to changes in the economy, though not always perfectly. A smaller town can't do any of these things.

The quality of life in many small towns is worse now than it has been in probably 70 years. If a town doesn't have any of the mentioned qualities in my first paragraph (which by the way, usually adds growth to that town), then literally the only way to live in a small town is if you're a farmer.

Everyone wants to live in a small town, but they also aren't willing to give up the amenities and opportunities that they enjoy in a bigger city and probably don't even know what it's like until they're gone.

[Wilson513]

Originally Posted by animatedmartian

Everyone wants to live in a small town, but they also aren't willing to give up the amenities and opportunities that they enjoy in a bigger city and probably don't even know what it's like until they're gone.

Nonsense.

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."

Yogi Berra

[animatedmartian]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

Nonsense.

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."

Yogi Berra

A quote like that is from someone who isn't among the crowd and is choosing not to take advantage of a what a city (or whatever is popular) has to offer. Some place that is crowded is not inherently bad. Only those who choose to avoid crowds are simply complaining about a problem caused by their own decisions. They are a vocal minority.

[rrtechno]

I haven't counted posts, but how long has it been since High Speed Rail, specifically the Cincinnati-Indianapolis-Chicago rout been actually discussed here? It appears to have turned into the old City-Suburb debate again. (with Rural being totally left out of the picture)

[kjbrill]

Originally Posted by rrtechno

I haven't counted posts, but how long has it been since High Speed Rail, specifically the Cincinnati-Indianapolis-Chicago rout been actually discussed here? It appears to have turned into the old City-Suburb debate again. (with Rural being totally left out of the picture)

HSR has been left out of the discussion simply because people realize It Is Going NOWHERE!

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by kjbrill

HSR has been left out of the discussion simply because people realize It Is Going NOWHERE!

I bet you said the same thing during the streetcar debate.

"But the technology is old!!"
"No one will use it!"
"It'll never get built!"
"The people will never vote for it!"

It went somewhere.

[kjbrill]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

I bet you said the same thing during the streetcar debate.

"But the technology is old!!"
"No one will use it!"
"It'll never get built!"
"The people will never vote for it!"

It went somewhere.

Sure, because the politicians wanted it to. Don't let the will of the people prevail, just that of the politicians.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by kjbrill

Sure, because the politicians wanted it to. Don't let the will of the people prevail, just that of the politicians.

Didn't the people vote for it like twice?

[rrtechno]

Originally Posted by kjbrill

HSR has been left out of the discussion simply because people realize It Is Going NOWHERE!

No … HSR has been left out of the discussion because, like the majority of threads in the Cincinnati forum, this has turned into an urban-suburban "debate".

[WILWRadio]

http://ballotpedia.org/Cincinnati_Ci...(November_2011)

http://ballotpedia.org/Cincinnati_St..._Issue_9_(2009)

I just hope they can get that average ridership needed to break even. Something like 3,000 riders daily (annual average) will be needed if it is going to break even. Since it won't be able to run during certain weather events it will be necessary to have higher numbers of riders during the better weather days.