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Old 01-08-2014, 03:39 PM
 
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Translated means the tonsils, adenoids, and uvula ( that piece of tissue that hangs above your throat) are removed. Used to be the tonsils and adenoids were routinely removed at the same time, I don't think the uvula was part of that deal. Sounds like they removed the uvula along with the other tissues to clear the airway well in hopes of alleviating severe sleep apnia. But those tissues are highly vascularized, and heavy bleeding could be a complication, if precautions aren't taken.
Why on earth did they not try weight loss to help with her sleep apnea before they went in for surgery? This is such a sad situation, but one that could have been avoided before she went under the knife.
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Old 01-08-2014, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Why on earth did they not try weight loss to help with her sleep apnea before they went in for surgery? This is such a sad situation, but one that could have been avoided before she went under the knife.

I have a sneaking suspicion that weight loss was encouraged by her doctors for a long time before surgery was ever discussed. Getting parents of overweight children to initiate the radical changes in the whole family's diet needed for successful weight loss is very hard. Jahi's mother and stepfather are both overweight. I do not know about Jahi's siblings.

Discussion - Effectiveness of Weight Management Programs in Children and Adolescents - NCBI Bookshelf
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Old 01-08-2014, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Per the family's own lawyer they admitted they suctioned her themselves.
Oakland 8th Grader "Brain Dead" After Tonsillectomy | NBC Bay Area


At the same time, Sealey said it appeared to the family as though the nursing staff had vanished during what seemed to be a shift change. In the family's minds, there didn't seem to be enough hospital staff in the room to help. The family started suctioning blood themselves; Jahi's grandmother, Sandra Chatman, is a nurse at another hospital.
“A 13-year-old should not have to suction herself,” Sealey said. “She had to use a suction machine to suction her own blood. Her mother and stepfather had to suction out her blood at points. None of them work for this hospital.”



Although, I do not claim to be an expert on intensive care, I have had about 12 to 15 different times when I was the adult with a loved one cared for in an intensive care unit. Many times it was after a surgery. Several times it was a potential life vs. death situation (ie, not just a "routine" ICU stay, if that is even possible).

Again, it was just my personal experience, but on the very rare situation where a nurse did not immediately appear when the nurse button was pushed a simple yell from the doorway "I need help, NOW!" resulted in nurses & doctors running into the room. I simply can not believe that the nurses just left patients in a PICU alone long enough for someone other than a nurse to suction a post-operative patient. Between my late mother and my husband I have waited in ICU rooms/waiting rooms for at least a total of three or four months at several different hospitals. I can not ever think of a time when help wasn't available when it was needed. Nurses just don't "disappear during shift changes".

Something is really fishy in their statements. Grandmother, step-father AND the mother all had time to suction Jahi before the nurses came back to the PICU. Really fishy.
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:09 PM
 
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I have a sneaking suspicion that weight loss was encouraged by her doctors for a long time before surgery was ever discussed. Getting parents of overweight children to initiate the radical changes in the whole family's diet needed for successful weight loss is very hard. Jahi's mother and stepfather are both overweight. I do not know about Jahi's siblings.

Discussion - Effectiveness of Weight Management Programs in Children and Adolescents - NCBI Bookshelf
I agree. It probably got to the point that they had to do something and surgery became the best option.

I also agree with your other post about them probably getting excellent and compassionate care at the children's hospital. That hospital is highly respected. I haven't worked in a children's hospital but have worked in a large teaching hospital/trauma center and patient care is the #1 priority.
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:15 PM
 
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According to this post she got her tubes

https://mobile.twitter.com/iseeyou_n...972864/photo/1


edit to add: I can't view the link anymore. It was active when I first clicked on it. Does not appear to be anymore.
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: DFW
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From the link: "Praying for a strong recovery"

They are in for a huge heartbreak, even more then already seen.
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I agree. It probably got to the point that they had to do something and surgery became the best option.

I also agree with your other post about them probably getting excellent and compassionate care at the children's hospital. That hospital is highly respected. I haven't worked in a children's hospital but have worked in a large teaching hospital/trauma center and patient care is the #1 priority.
I want to point out that my experience was as the parent of a patient, not as a hospital employee. My son was an inpatient many times while he was on chemo for leukemia. Fortunately, he did not ever have to be in intensive care, but I do know the resources that were there to help parents cope.
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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According to this post she got her tubes

https://mobile.twitter.com/iseeyou_n...972864/photo/1


edit to add: I can't view the link anymore. It was active when I first clicked on it. Does not appear to be anymore.
This is just getting more and more macabre. Who would put a feeding tube in when she has been sloughing the lining of her intestine for weeks?
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:24 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:44 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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It was more involved than that. Not just tonsillectomy, adenoidectomy, and uvulectomy. It was a uvulupalatopharyngoplasty. That means they were basically reconstructing her entire airway. Uvula, palate, and pharynx, in addition to tonsils and adenoids.
I was responding to the OP who through the words out there. But I'll take your word for it, now that I see the suffix -plasty in the surgery list. But my questions are the same, those are heavily vascularized areas subject to bleeding, and I wonder if as reported the girl bled so profusely that she essentially bled to death, why this occurred if she was monitored post surgery as she should have been for complications such as bleeding?
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