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I just think it's sad that people are always so afraid to share when they have cancer. I think many people go through this illness alone. There is still such a stigma behind letting people know. As common as cancer is people who get it are still pitied and looked at as so unlucky.
It isn't necessarily a "fear" of sharing or stigma, it's often an attempt to spare others who might become unhinged hearing the news. The person sharing such an unwelcome surprise can end up needing to support the person they just told because they can't handle themselves. Let's face it...it IS terrible news! There's also a fear of being turned into a pitiable victim by those who will write them off as a doomed lost cause. Some people who hear personal news like this start hovering over the person's bedside, wringing their hands like the angel of death. Their pity gets distorted into something obsessive and dark.
Just like some people participating in this thread seem to be doing.
The person can also get bombarded by every quack and shill touting their own personal miracle cures, lotions and potions, flooding them with all sorts of advice from the obvious to the absurd.
Then there are attempts to guilt trip them...if you'd only done this or that you wouldn't be sick now! If a negative thought ever crosses your mind, if you ever lose control even once during your ordeal, you've doomed yourself to an earlier grave. BTDT. I've been through cancer diagnoses/treatment twice. There definitely are people I wish I'd never told because of how they behaved. It can get quite ugly.
I sympathize with people who live under a magnifying glass like this. Even if they knew what they were probably getting into, nothing can prepare a person for such ridiculous scrutiny. It's just salacious, vicious, and self-serving, not to mention filling one person's pockets with another person's suffering.
Regardless what they decide to do about making their personal challenges public, someone's going to pillory them about it. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. If we don't get pictures, we assume the worst. If we do get pictures, we assume the worst.
Just like a few people participating in this thread seem to be doing.
Nothing they do can ever silence all the wagging tongues with nothing better to do with their time.
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I see both sides. While I don't condone the hounding and conspiracy theories around this thing, I also don't believe that Kate deserves the same kind of privacy that normal people do. She's not a private citizen, but a public citizens living on the public dole in multi million dollar palaces living a life fully funded by taxpayers. From a public relations standpoint, just having a member of the royal family drop dead (not saying this is Kate's prognosis) after a hidden illness probably wouldn't do much to endear them to the public either, whose support they ultimately need to be written out of law. Just my two cents anyway.
I really don't want to get into this again, so I'll just say that although I agree, to an extent, about the public figure thing, I also believe that a line was crossed with all the unseemly clamor and conspiracy noise. Some food for thought...I won't be "debating" this here, though.
Criticism and praise for the monarchy has heightened following the death of Queen Elizabeth II. Her funeral cost UK taxpayers millions, but the royal institution brings in far greater sums each year.
Speculation and "gossip" will continue. Two royals are sick with ???? cancer. That is not going to end the chatter, just get people guessing how sick they might be.
I can't imagine poor William, his dad and wife sick at the same time, and the children having to deal with this at their tender ages.
Yes, it will continue. But I think the fact that they have finally been honest about what was happening gives the impetus to demand more information far less strength. I think the British people had the right to know the basics. But I don't think anyone has a right to all the information.
Cancer and other unpleasant things can most certainly happen to people in powerful positions with money.
I appreciate when people are honest about situations. There's many situations that leave people wonder, what happened, what's happening and the answer is often, it's none of your business....when a lot can actually be learned from the secret that someone is trying to keep covered.
Not saying that is what Kate did here...I do see how she wanted to tell her kids first.
You're thinking in terms of the US medical system which has much better cancer outcomes than UK as someone has pointed out. Kate is stuck with the NHS's inferior care unless they are secretly shipping in American doctors to treat her.
I'm at a loss to understand why with their fabulous wealth the royals aren't getting the best MRI's, labs and ultrasounds on a quarterly basis to keep a check on abnormal growths. If this is pancreatic cancer it's likely a death sentence for Kate, I hate to be so pessimistic but I'm a realist and this is just the way the stats lean.
Kate is being treated at The London Clinic, and the type of cancer had not been announced, so it's all just further speculation.
As for the NHS it generally does a very good job, and a major factor in terms of cancer figures has alwats been over diagnosis, and this is especially true in certain private systems.
Once treatment commences the NHS does a very good job, and it should be noted that many treatments and a lot of scanning equipment such as CT Scanners and MRI were largely invented in the UK.
As for major internationally renowned NHS Oncology (Cancer) Hospitals, such as the Royal Marsden in London, the oldest cancer hospital in the world, they offer private healthcare to international patients.
None of us know who is treating her, their credentials, where they studied, etc. We don't even know what kind of cancer she has, what organ it affects, what the surgery removed, but you're already predicting she's "not going to make it?"
Yep. Unfortunately. It's way more serious than they're letting on I think.
BTW, "chemo brain" is real. My mother was a completely different person when she was receiving adjuvant chemotherapy. What some of you are calling "hiding the truth!" was likely more about trying to navigate though the challenges of a difficult medical journey — on top of just trying to process the fact of the cancer itself.
A term commonly used to describe thinking and memory problems that a patient with cancer may have before, during, or after cancer treatment. Signs and symptoms of chemo brain include disorganized behavior or thinking, confusion, memory loss, and trouble concentrating, paying attention, learning, and making decisions. Chemo brain may be caused by the cancer itself (such as brain tumors) or by cancer treatment, such as chemotherapy and other anticancer drugs, radiation therapy, hormone therapy, and surgery. It may also be caused by conditions related to cancer treatment, such as anemia, fatigue, infection, pain, hormone changes, sleep problems, nutrition problems, stress, anxiety, and depression. Chemo brain may last for a short time or for many years.
Yep. Unfortunately. It's way more serious than they're letting on I think.
I know quite a few women who had breast cancer in their 30's and they survived and are doing well today in their 40's. No idea if it will come back or what but not all cancer is a death sentence.
Anyone who believes Kate isn't getting the best care possible is wrong. She is not receiving substandard care. As a royal, she, as would any member of the royal family, receive A+++ care and the best treatments possible and whatever ongoing tests any of her doctors or team advised.
Agreed. The US may provide a lot of the research in some areas but knowledge is widely shared around the world. A friend of our died of an unusual auto immune condition and the hospital doctors here were in contact with several international experts in other countries about his condition. And he was merely a public patient in a local hospital in Sydney. Most of our specialists spend time working in other English speaking countries. Research is widely available on the internet and patients do not need to be in a particular country for their specialists to be consulted if need be.
It reeks of cultural imperialism to assume that if someone is not in hospital in the US they are not getting the best care.
It also reeks of cultural imperialism to assume that everyone in the world should confirm to American social expectations of privacy, or rather lack of it.
It reeks of cultural imperialism to assume that if someone is not in hospital in the US they are not getting the best care.
It also reeks of cultural imperialism to assume that everyone in the world should confirm to American social expectations of privacy, or rather lack of it.
Why? It's the truth. America has the best health care in the world, easily. IDC if socialists here harp on about M4A, it ain't happening.
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