Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
States don't always follow national polling. Maybe some swing states are similar to national polls. But states like NY, CA, WV, TN, IL...they don't follow the national trend because they are either heavy red or blue states. The electoral college is much different than national polling.
States don't always follow national polling. Maybe some swing states are similar to national polls. But states like NY, CA, WV, TN, IL...they don't follow the national trend because they are either heavy red or blue states. The electoral college is much different than national polling.
It is likely that the electoral college result will be the same as the popular vote with respect to winner/loser. But Clinton is projected to win by nearly 2 to 1 in the electoral college. Polling suggests that the popular will not be that lopsided.
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
10,202 posts, read 7,925,051 times
Reputation: 4561
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCALMike
Why not vote for Jill Stein instead? Mississippi is a good example of what happens when right wing extremists and puppets of the billionaire class get to rule. What do you have to lose by voting Jill Stein who is fighting for the 99%? Or are you part of the donor class?
Because Stein is a certified loony tune. She disses vaccinations for one. Johnson to many libertarians is not a true libertarian. If those two minor parities had reasonable candidate such as Bob Barr, I think they would have a legitimate impact on the race.
A Ross Perot would likely be the first independent president in 2016.
I looked at Johnson's position on the issues and was (am) convinced that his approach to governing American is best for America.
If people make more money than me, then good for them. That has nothing to do with my level of happiness or pride in the country. I find this whole nonsense of someone "fighting for the 99%" kind of irritating.
Massive inequality does affect you because wealth=political power. You have to choose, either democracy or massive income and wealth inequality.
It is likely that the electoral college result will be the same as the popular vote with respect to winner/loser. But Clinton is projected to win by nearly 2 to 1 in the electoral college. Polling suggests that the popular will not be that lopsided.
I think Trump followers get a little too focused on the average margin in the national horse race. In the last three elections, the margin in the state that gave the winning party the White House (the tipping point state) has been more Democratic than the national average. In 2004, Bush won nationally by 2.5% but won the election by winning Ohio by 2.1%; in 2008 Obama won nationally by 7.72% but won Colorado by 8.95% and with it the election; in 2012 Obama won nationally by 3.86% but won by taking Colorado by 5.36%.
So in the states that decided the elections, the Electoral College, as compared by the national popular vote, favored the Democrat by 0.4% on 2004, 1.23% in 2008 and 1.5% in 2012; the pro-Democratic lean has been increasing in 3 straight elections, meaning that unless the relationship between the national popular vote and the Electoral College radically changes in 2016, Donald Trump probably needs to win the national popular vote by close to 2% or more to feel reasonably confident in prevailing in the Electoral College and winning the Presidency.
Last edited by Bureaucat; 09-07-2016 at 11:25 AM..
National - Clinton up by 1.8%
Arizona - Trump up by .7%
Florida - Clinton up by 1.7%
Overall Clinton still losing a little ground everyday except Arizona has become tighter.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
