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Old 09-18-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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That likely is the peak honestly. It will most likely work itself out over the next week to come in line with the other polls.
I honestly thought +3 or +4 would be his peak.

 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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A biased insight but no one cares anyway. Whatever he thinks isn't going to change any votes.
No but it goes to the ability of Trump to actually prep for the debates. Someone with a very short attention span is not going to do well with learning substantive answers on numerous policy topics.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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No he isn't. You guys have to stop cherry picking this one poll to try to prove stuff. The poll is good for trendlines but it isn't good for actual numbers.
It is evidence of the right bias of RCP that this poll is included given its own "authors" have cautioned about its experimental nature. Without this poll, it looks less close right now.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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No he isn't. You guys have to stop cherry picking this one poll to try to prove stuff. The poll is good for trendlines but it isn't good for actual numbers.
I'm not cherry picking this one poll. I quoted Polltracker the other day which showed him at 14% currently with Blacks and you dismissed that average of poll too.
Which poll won't you dismiss which shows his numbers are increasing among Black voters?
 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:24 AM
 
Location: North America
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I honestly thought +3 or +4 would be his peak.
It seems to vary. When he was up by 1 in rcp he was up by 7 there. Other times it's only a few points off. Part of it is because of how it gauges support. Not based on a yes/no question but rather out of 100.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It seems to vary. When he was up by 1 in rcp he was up by 7 there. Other times it's only a few points off. Part of it is because of how it gauges support. Not based on a yes/no question but rather out of 100.
This poll has Trump up to 20% support with blacks. Get serious already.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: North America
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I'm not cherry picking this one poll. I quoted Polltracker the other day which showed him at 14% currently with Blacks and you dismissed that average of poll too.
Which poll won't you dismiss which shows his numbers are increasing among Black voters?
Yes, and that's what polltracker is adding into the average as well. Which I pointed out right there. If you start getting more than one quality poll that says his numbers are increasing dramatically then I will concede that is the case. Outside of the dornslife poll I have not seen him do anything better than 5-6 points in the last few months. With most of them hovering at 1-2.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Morning Call/Muhlenburg...Pennsylvania Poll of 405 likely voters. 9/17/2016

Clinton/Trump..........................47/37%
Clinton/Trump/Johnson/Stein......40/32/14/5%

The poll clearly shows Clinton in the lead and is the first public Pennsylvania poll since 9/8, which showed similar results.
My own hope is that Hillary and Don will act like Hillary and Don during the debate and send more voters over to Gary Johnson. Clearly, he is collecting votes from both sides.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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This poll has Trump up to 20% support with blacks. Get serious already.
I know that, you know that, anyone who is trying to to use common sense knows that, but, Trump supporters have a hard time fathoming that Trump is not popular with a boat load of people. Minorities in particular.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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It is evidence of the right bias of RCP that this poll is included given its own "authors" have cautioned about its experimental nature. Without this poll, it looks less close right now.
Wasn't this poll one of the most accurate last time? Regardless, this poll isn't in their average of 4-way polls and that's even closer at Clinton +0.7%.
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