***National Presidential Polls*** Part III (voters, Republican, Clinton, leader)

[marino760]

Originally Posted by Clark Park

... but ... Romney lost in 2012, didn't he???

So, you are saying if Donald wins 30% of the Hispanic vote he automatically wins the presidency?

Of course not. I never said anything of the sort. His appeal to minorities is proving not to be as puny and narrow as has been reported, that's all.

[marino760]

Originally Posted by sware2cod

Can you please post a link the the poll that shows Trump at 24% for hispanics? Either a national poll or swing state poll, since those are the only polls that matter at this point.

I am looking at lots of polls and can't find any recent polls that split by race.

EDIT: The new Florida poll splits by race. It shows

https://www.siena.edu/news-events/ar...ine-state-race

Clinton 82% African-Americans and Trump gets 4%
Clinton 61% Hispanics/Latinos and Trump gets 21%

Here are some polls for the Hispanic vote. I believe these are all national. I'm getting this info from Polltracker:

Latino Decisions 9/11-9/16 Clinton 71%, Trump 18%
Morning Consult 9/14-9/15 Clinton 50%, Trump 31%
YouGov/Economist 9/9-9/12 Clinton 71%, Trump 20%
Utah Valley University 8/11-9/11 Clinton 55%, Trump 22%
Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald 8/30-9/3 Clinton 47%, Trump 36%
GWU/Tarrace Group, Lake Research 8/27-8/31 Clinton 66%, Trump 24%

These are some of the polls Polltracker used to come up with a current average as of 10 hours ago, Clinton 65%, Trump 24.5%

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by marino760

Here are some polls for the Hispanic vote. I believe these are all national. I'm getting this info from Polltracker:

Latino Decisions 9/11-9/16 Clinton 71%, Trump 18%
Morning Consult 9/14-9/15 Clinton 50%, Trump 31%
YouGov/Economist 9/9-9/12 Clinton 71%, Trump 20%
Utah Valley University 8/11-9/11 Clinton 55%, Trump 22%
Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald 8/30-9/3 Clinton 47%, Trump 36%
GWU/Tarrace Group, Lake Research 8/27-8/31 Clinton 66%, Trump 24%

These are some of the polls Polltracker used to come up with a current average as of 10 hours ago, Clinton 65%, Trump 24.5%

LD tends to be the most accurate of the final result. My guess is he will get between 18-24 though. Romney did so poorly with them that there isn't a lot of room to fall from. They don't vote monolithically like African Americans tend to do. Anyway, Democrats overstate the importance of their vote. The only state they can make a real difference in is Florida. They are too concentrated in non competitive states mostly. 20 years from now that might not be a reality but it is what it is now.

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by marino760

Of course not. I never said anything of the sort. His appeal to minorities is proving not to be as puny and narrow as has been reported, that's all.

We will see anyway.

[Ponderosa]

Hillary Clinton Regains Momentum Against Donald Trump: Poll - NBC News

Clinton 50%
Trump 45%

Survey Monkey has switched to a likely voter model now, too, with this one.

[JoshGL]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Hillary Clinton Regains Momentum Against Donald Trump: Poll - NBC News

Clinton 50%
Trump 45%

Survey Monkey has switched to a likely voter model now, too, with this one.

Respondents for this non-probability survey were selected from the nearly three million people who take surveys on the SurveyMonkey platform each day.

It may as well be a Facebook poll.

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by JoshGL

It may as well be a Facebook poll.

Amusing how the Trump supporters will still quote it when he is doing well in it though.


"Polls are rigged....Polls are rigged.....Polls are rigged....TRUMP CLOSES IN ON CROOKED HILLARY IN THE LATEST NBC SURVEY!!!! YOU'RE GOING DOWN!!!!! Polls are rigged......"

[Ponderosa]

Trump was down in Morning Consult a couple days ago. He is losing ground in the LA Times poll that Trump supporters love as well. It certainly looks like a momentum shift is underway once again. Trump will go into the debates behind in the polls. Will that make him more prone to outrageous behavior?

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Trump was down in Morning Consult a couple days ago. He is losing ground in the LA Times poll that Trump supporters love as well. It certainly looks like a momentum shift is underway once again. Trump will go into the debates behind in the polls. Will that make him more prone to outrageous behavior?

Maybe, or it's simply the sign of a tied or nearly tied race. It will take a few more weeks to see. I would hope that Trump would be smart enough to understand the importance of the debate. As the GOP strategist Matt Mackowiak said. "He can't win the election on the first debate, but he certainly can lose it."

[ColoradoOnMyMind]

I'd love to see the internal polling, with the desperation of the media and how frustrated Hillary is looking I bet she knows she is down big time.