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View Poll Results: Does Mayor Pete have any shot at becoming the nominee?
Yes 84 47.19%
No 94 52.81%
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Yeah because there is nobody who doesn't have your far left views.

The male pigs are the ones who love abortion.

I'm not sure how you know if I have an aversion to recreational extra marital sex. Sounds like you have one of those fancy mind reading machines all leftwingers seem to own.

You can't explain how an unborn baby is not alive so you start making weak ad hominem attacks like this.

The good mayor says he is for gay rights but abortion is taken away the life of many babies who would grow up to be gay.
Let me boil it down for you:

Babies are a huge commitment, they don't have an off button, they cost a $#!+load of money to raise, they are basically an 18 year long boat anchor (19 if you count the pregnancy), and are the number one cause of poverty in this country

If people had cheap/free access to day care and other subsidies like free hospital child birth (which on average costs $15k); maybe more people would see things your way
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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A lot of people of people do see it my way.

That's why the GOP is a viable party.

That you are advocating abortion as a solution to poverty doesn't make you any different than a genocidal tyrant like Hitler doing social engineering.

It really is no different than John C. Calhoun trying to make the case slavery was a good thing for the slaves.

You would not sign up for the abortion procedure, which is a form of torture, but you eagerly sign other people up for it.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:54 PM
 
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It won't happen in this generation, requiring 3/4 of states to ratify. my point is that the calling for it puts party over the good of the country
But it may happen, effectively, by other means, if the National Popular Vote Compact is ratified in 270 EC votes worth of states, and any challenges are thwarted once that threshold has been reached.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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A lot of people of people do see it my way.

That's why the GOP is a viable party.

That you are advocating abortion as a solution to poverty doesn't make you any different than a genocidal tyrant like Hitler doing social engineering.
The majority support keeping abortion legal under almost all circumstances
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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The majority support keeping abortion legal under almost all circumstances
Then why did you need Roe Vs Wade to overturn state laws...
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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Abortion isn't giving freedom to the baby being aborted by somebody else.
It's a fetus, not a baby.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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It's a fetus, not a baby.
A fetus and a baby are the same thing.

They both have the standard proofs of life.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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A fetus and a baby are the same thing.

They both have the standard proofs of life.
No they aren't, one is alive, the other is in stasis and is not viable without living in an incubator
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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a child would starve to death if their parents or another adult doesn't take care of them.

by your own logic on abortion, it should be ok to abort a kid after birth.

It is interesting the best argument that you can come up for abortion is that these are innocent fragile beings thus we should be able to kill them.

I would think civilized sociities protected the fragile and weak, not terminate them.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The last few posts are completely laughable! Pete Buttigieg is very much a moderate Democrat. What has he said to make anyone think he’s a Communist? Do some people on the right believe that all people in the LGBT community are far-left Socialist or even Communists?

Not yours Firebird. you make excellent points!
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