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View Poll Results: Does Mayor Pete have any shot at becoming the nominee?
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Conservative talk a lot about justice for the unborn. It would be more convincing if they also talked about justice for the born.
That's just it, and why I say they don't truly care about the fetuses. Because they don't want one iota of government help going to the parents of said fetus. "It's their problem, it's not my problem". Bunch of hypocrites
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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A lot of guys dont' have the confidence to be against abortion because many young ladies are for it.

These guys will say whatever they think they need to say to get what they want.

Hypocrisy is acting like you care more about babies than pro life people. That doesn't make any sense.

Conservatives don't have a problem with money going to poor people....we just don't want to perpetuate poverty like liberals do. Their goal is to keep people dependent on government.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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A lot of guys dont' have the confidence to be against abortion because many young ladies are for it.

These guys will say whatever they think they need to say to get what they want.

Hyprocisy is acting like you care more about babies than pro life people.
You don't know what you're talking about
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I know guys who were pro life until they met some pro choice girl they liked.

And I know young women can be vicious to young men who are pro life. I found this out.

The funny thing is many of those women from high school and college have told me they are pro life now partly because of me. I think it is mostly because they had kids.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I know guys who were pro life until they met some pro choice girl they liked.

And I know young women can be vicious to young men who are pro life. I found this out.

The funny thing is many of those women from high school and college have told me they are pro life now partly because of me. I think it is mostly because they had kids.
I don't know where you pulled that from. I just put myself in a woman's shoes mentally, if I got pregnant and didn't want to have and raise a baby (or carry it to give it up for adoption), I would have an abortion
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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you don't put yourself in the female baby's shoes....

you would not pick the abortion procedure for yourself

I don't doubt you would take the self serving option.

Many women don't and they are heroes.

I guarantee almost every woman who has an abortion has guilt over it the rest of her life, and so do most of the men who encouraged a partner to have an abortion.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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you don't put yourself in the female baby's shoes....

you would not pick the abortion procedure for yourself

I don't doubt you would take the self serving option.

Many women don't and they are heroes.

I guarantee almost every woman who has an abortion has guilt over it the rest of her life, and so do most of the men who encouraged a partner to have an abortion.
So you're calling my fiance a liar, then?

And of course I don't put myself in the fetuses shoes, the fetus isn't going to have to pay the bills, keep a roof over our heads, pay for day care so I can continue to work, etc etc

You just don't get it
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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i get that I wouldn't want to be signed up for the abortion procedure.

nothing else matters if you get the horror of that procedure.

i'm not sure how anybody could not feel sick about abortion.

the weirdest thing to me is people like the good mayor who virtue signal a lot also support abortion.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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i get that I wouldn't want to be signed up for the abortion procedure.

nothing else matters if you get the horror of that procedure.

i'm not sure how anybody could not feel sick about abortion.
Because it's not a fully formed baby, we're talking first and maybe second trimester here. Fetuses don't even have a nervous system until 20 weeks ffs.

Nothing else matters, fine, so if hypothetically if you were poor, you and your fetus once it's born could live in a cardboard box and dumpster dive for food, yeah, that sounds like a great environment to try to raise a baby in
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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your party supports late term and post birth abortions too, and you vote for that party.

plenty of poor people have had babies and they didn't die.
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