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Old 11-06-2008, 09:10 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I do agree with this posting. I love the young,but they are still learning about taxes, jobs and the whole trickle down effect. This will be a very hard lesson to learn--------real life.
Trickle-Down economics is not a universally accepted theory. And the man who invented it, Arthur Laffer is a complete idiot who has not done anything since he invented the Laffer curve out of thin air. It has no basis in reality and Laffer even appeared on Kudlow and Company on August 28th, 2006 saying, "The United States economy has never been in better shape". If I could tell (I'm an investment advisor) and was able to sell off a ton of stocks at a profit before they all tanked, wouldn't the man who somehow knows everything (according to Reaganists he's the only economist who matters) have been able to see it? If you have ever seen an interview with Laffer, you'd understand very quickly that he's basically been resting on his laurels for 35 years.
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Old 11-07-2008, 06:48 PM
 
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The Youth Cult has always voted for the idiosyncratic candidate since the days of Eugene McCarthy, providing most of their shoe leather. But until this election, that's been the kiss of death -- they annoy too many other people. This year a coalition w/ the blacks put them over the top.

While I didn't think either candidate was worth a damn, I wouldn't mind the minimum voting age bumped up to 21 again. These are the same folks who liked Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis after all.
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:37 PM
 
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While I didn't think either candidate was worth a damn, I wouldn't mind the minimum voting age bumped up to 21 again.
That's fine with me if you are going to bump up the minimum age to join the military to 21 and raise the upper limit so some of you chicken hawks can serve in their stead.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:01 PM
 
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I am so sick and tired of conservatives calling Obama a socialist. Your Republican administration just nationalized a bunch of banking institutions -- and you have the chutzpah to complain about "socialism"? As in, nationalizing businesses is not socialism? The unprecedented bailout package is the culmination of many years of conservatives pursuing their own kind of socialism -- socialism for the rich, at the expense of everyone else. So until you stop expecting the public to fund big private enterprise, kindly [insert well-known unprintable expression here] about socialism.
Do you even follow news and events? Do you know how the bailout of the banks took place? Do you even realize your DEMOCRAT Senate followed by the DEMOCRAT House pushed those through? And sure Bush retardly signed it through.

Do you even know who Pelosi or Barney Frank is? And do you know how hard they pushed for those bank bailouts?

You need to start reading the newspaper. More Republicans voted against the bailout of the bank CEO's than democrats.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:04 PM
 
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That's fine with me if you are going to bump up the minimum age to join the military to 21 and raise the upper limit so some of you chicken hawks can serve in their stead.
Do you realize no one is forced to join the military? It's been a "volunteer" military in that no one has been drafted in many many years.

Don't worry, now with the election results, enlistments are way way down and reenlistments are also way down. Obama doesn't believe in having a much of a military.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:08 PM
 
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I guess those young folks who want to see a health care solution HAVE the compassion and empathy for others that so-called christians only talk about. Their desire to see all Americans enjoy the basic human dignity of being cared for when sick speaks HIGHLY of their level of maturity and wisdom, something that seems lacking among social conservatives who don't care if you die, especially if you're poor or not lily white like them and their money grubbing TV preachers.

Do us a favor son, shut up, go away, come back in 20 years if you grow up.
It's easy to want all that free health care for all when you are not paying a dime for it. Wait until someday if you ever have to work for a living. Then it's YOU having your income taken from you.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:12 PM
 
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This generation is better educated and enlightened than any before it, so I think we'll decide for ourselves, old timers.
Have you ever had a job? Moved out from your parent's house? Paid rent or a mortgage? Supported a family? Paid income tax?
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:13 PM
 
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Do you realize no one is forced to join the military?
Yeah, I kind of remember the draft being canceled right around the time I got my discharge.

Of course whether there is a draft of their isn't is quite besides the point of either my comment or the issue at hand, i.e. that the nations youth are "idiots."

But since you didn't get it the first go round, I'll restate my point. The same "youth" that some here decry are the very same youth who "defend our freedoms" so, if this "youth culture" is so reprobate then clearly they shouldn't be allowed to fight die and be grossly injured in old folk's silly wars. You feel me?

In short "my friend" I find nothing ignorant, about young people be they Republican young people, Democratic young people, or independent young people, and they certainly aren't any dumber that boomers like myself and other old folks who have forgotten when the WWII generation thought the same thing about us.

As for the rest of your nonsense... It doesn't deserve a response.
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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I am so sick of all these young people following Obama like blind sheep. Many of them don't even know what he stands for, but are out for Obama because its the "thing to do". They need to look beyond the gay issue and their anger at the religious right, and think about issues like taxes, jobs, energy, and national security that will affect them. Obama's plan will raise taxes on people making as low as $42,000/yr, kill jobs as small businesses will go under, he is against clean coal and nuclear, increase the already monstrous national budget, and is weak on national security almost to the point he could be considered a terrorist sympathizer. Yet nearly 8 out of 10 young people are lining up like sheep to vote for him. This isn't elementary school where everyone is a winner or little league soccer where everybody gets the same trophy so nobody's "feelings are hurt". This is the real world, and this generation needs to step into it.

A Republican supporter and you actually have the nerve to call someone else an IDIOT! WOW!
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Trickle-Down economics is not a universally accepted theory. And the man who invented it, Arthur Laffer is a complete idiot who has not done anything since he invented the Laffer curve out of thin air. It has no basis in reality and Laffer even appeared on Kudlow and Company on August 28th, 2006 saying, "The United States economy has never been in better shape". If I could tell (I'm an investment advisor) and was able to sell off a ton of stocks at a profit before they all tanked, wouldn't the man who somehow knows everything (according to Reaganists he's the only economist who matters) have been able to see it? If you have ever seen an interview with Laffer, you'd understand very quickly that he's basically been resting on his laurels for 35 years.
Sadly you are talking way way above and beyond the understanding of ANY Republicans. Laffer is a total clown. Him and Don Luskin, are in a never-ending love triangle/orgy with Larry Kudlow, and the few other creepy neo-con/Reagen trickle-down followers.

They spew, rinse, repeat the same garbage over and over and over. Mainly through CNBC and the WSJ. Of course the talk-radiots pick it up. So the 20% in this country to dumb to think for themselves hear it from the talk-radiot clowns. So they believe it (even though they dont' even have a clue what they are supporting).

If you watch Kudlow, it's just a sad joke. These guys are proven dead wrong time and again. So they stop having people who disagree with them. Then they run out of guests because they can only have the same 5 people on so many days in a row. So then they bring in "liberals" who they think don't know anything about economics. Then they are made to look like fools again. And it just keeps going round and round.
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