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I am confused...usually older folks gripe about the youngsters never voting, yet now that they did, suddenly they shouldn't be? Were you honestly all that detailed in researching facts when you were that age?
I was very well-researched, thank you. I spoke to some older people who thought Sen. Obama was a Muslim domestic terrorist sympathizer born in Indonesia! I also spoke to some who thought he was "pro-gay" (even though he's NOT!) The misinformation that was spouted by these so-called "wise" older people was really just a bunch of gobbledygook meant to dissuade we younger voters. It didn't work. We're not stupid.
Um, not quite true, in school, I actually was a republican, (maybe b/c my parents were), and I've become a Democrat since after seeing what GOP policies have done to this nation.
I didn't say "all" young people. I also was a Republican while in school, and still am today, based on principles. How I vote depends on the individuals ideals however.
I am so sick and tired of conservatives calling Obama a socialist. Your Republican administration just nationalized a bunch of banking institutions -- and you have the chutzpah to complain about "socialism"? As in, nationalizing businesses is not socialism? The unprecedented bailout package is the culmination of many years of conservatives pursuing their own kind of socialism -- socialism for the rich, at the expense of everyone else. So until you stop expecting the public to fund big private enterprise, kindly [insert well-known unprintable expression here] about socialism.
I am sick and tired of conservatives telling the disadvantaged to "grow up and take responsibility". Go tell it to your friends, corrupt corporate executives for a change. If you want to teach society something about taking responsibility, don't just send the Enron gang to jail, but take all of their money and assets to pay Enron's debts (but leave them their loincloths, for modesty). To listen to you, it seems like only the poor and the middle class have to "grow up and take responsibility", while the economic elite is to be cuddled and have its extravagances supported by the middle class in the name of "business expenses" on the off chance they might give someone a job -- someone that they will later rob of his life's savings.
I am sick and tired of conservatives complaining about "handouts" and welfare. Stop supporting handouts to the rich in the form of outrageous tax breaks, and stop supporting corporate welfare -- then we'll talk.
I am sick and tired of conservatives screaming about "private property" and to each his own. It seems like, when banks make profits, it's all "private" -- but when they suffer losses, suddenly it's a "public" problem and everyone must shoulder the burden. You can't have it both ways. You can't have private profits and public losses. If you want taxpayers to prop you up, don't complain when they expect you to do the same for them.
I am so sick and tired of conservatives calling Obama a socialist. Your Republican administration just nationalized a bunch of banking institutions -- and you have the chutzpah to complain about "socialism"? As in, nationalizing businesses is not socialism? The unprecedented bailout package is the culmination of many years of conservatives pursuing their own kind of socialism -- socialism for the rich, at the expense of everyone else. So until you stop expecting the public to fund big private enterprise, kindly [insert well-known unprintable expression here] about socialism.
I am sick and tired of conservatives telling the disadvantaged to "grow up and take responsibility". Go tell it to your friends, corrupt corporate executives for a change. If you want to teach society something about taking responsibility, don't just send the Enron gang to jail, but take all of their money and assets to pay Enron's debts (but leave them their loincloths, for modesty). To listen to you, it seems like only the poor and the middle class have to "grow up and take responsibility", while the economic elite is to be cuddled and have its extravagances supported by the middle class in the name of "business expenses" on the off chance they might give someone a job -- someone that they will later rob of his life's savings.
I am sick and tired of conservatives complaining about "handouts" and welfare. Stop supporting handouts to the rich in the form of outrageous tax breaks, and stop supporting corporate welfare -- then we'll talk.
I am sick and tired of conservatives screaming about "private property" and to each his own. It seems like, when banks make profits, it's all "private" -- but when they suffer losses, suddenly it's a "public" problem and everyone must shoulder the burden. You can't have it both ways. You can't have private profits and public losses. If you want taxpayers to prop you up, don't complain when they expect you to do the same for them.
Please educate yourself. I'll give you a few starting points.
I am so sick of all these young people following Obama like blind sheep. Many of them don't even know what he stands for, but are out for Obama because its the "thing to do". They need to look beyond the gay issue and their anger at the religious right, and think about issues like taxes, jobs, energy, and national security that will affect them. Obama's plan will raise taxes on people making as low as $42,000/yr, kill jobs as small businesses will go under, he is against clean coal and nuclear, increase the already monstrous national budget, and is weak on national security almost to the point he could be considered a terrorist sympathizer. Yet nearly 8 out of 10 young people are lining up like sheep to vote for him. This isn't elementary school where everyone is a winner or little league soccer where everybody gets the same trophy so nobody's "feelings are hurt". This is the real world, and this generation needs to step into it.
Don't cheapen the young peoples view or mind with your nonsense. That statement can easily be reversed and turned on you "old people". I'm ont a "young person".. I'm 34 years old and I voted for Obama and so did MANY American's across age lines.
No.. the younger generation saw this as an opportunity to change the status quo. They are NOT happy with the direction of this country that Bush has lead us in the last 8 years and they made their voices heard.. NOT because it was the "thing to do" but because it was the thing that NEEDED TO BE DONE!
Stop clinging to your old status quo and your old ways.... Change is in the air and finally something positive is coming!!! Be PROUD that the youth of this country have gotten involved once again after having been so complacent!
I am confused...usually older folks gripe about the youngsters never voting, yet now that they did, suddenly they shouldn't be? Were you honestly all that detailed in researching facts when you were that age?
The nerve of them, actually caring about their futures.
I am so proud of our young people - these are our new doctors, teachers, lawyers, military people, our scientists, cancer researchers, energy experts, engineers and agriculturists, our religious leaders and Supreme Court justices.
They are the future of this country, and from where I sit, the future is looking pretty darn bright.
I know this, Jon. Using taxpayer's money to fund big enterprise is still socialist, and so is nationalization of business -- except in this case, without the few advantages that usually come with socialism. I stand by everything I've said. You don't like it -- suck it up. After all, it's the conservative motto -- isn't it?
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Please try to stop posting the misinformation it never makes the poster look very intelligent.
Oh, you mean, if I adapt your opinion, that will make me look intelligent in your eyes? Gee, I've never heard that one before. Let me change my opinion quick, I really need your validation of my intelligence.
There were only 4 reasons I've seen so far to explain the vote for B.O. and they are:
1. He's not a republican which is understandable after the last 8 years.
2. He's black and it seems it's become the "cool" new change. Not saying it's a bad thing just that it is what it is.
3. He's not an old rich guy. Age mattered this time.
4. He's a very convincing orator. He came on the scene with a very light resume, nothing really important in anything he's done so far but very convincing that he'll "change" things.
Good for him now let's all "hope" he steps up to the plate and actually does what he promised to do. Not what he said last night but what was promised up to last night.
There were only 4 reasons I've seen so far to explain the vote for B.O. and they are:
1. He's not a republican which is understandable after the last 8 years.
2. He's black and it seems it's become the "cool" new change. Not saying it's a bad thing just that it is what it is.
3. He's not an old rich guy. Age mattered this time.
4. He's a very convincing orator. He came on the scene with a very light resume, nothing really important in anything he's done so far but very convincing that he'll "change" things.
Good for him now let's all "hope" he steps up to the plate and actually does what he promised to do. Not what he said last night but what was promised up to last night.
What was wrong with what he said last night?
If you're talking about in a year or in 1 term line.. well duh? It took 8 years to make the mess, can't fix it in 1 ..but you can do a lot toward fixing it in 4! AND.. if he does the job he says he will (which I am positive he will..especially with a dem controlled house and senate to back him) he'll easily get another 4 years.
Here are the reasons I didn't vote McCain;
1). He's a Republican. For the first time I got off the fence and actually became a member of a party rather than an independent. You can thank Bush for pushing me to that side completely . .although I tended to lean dem anyway.
2). He is fresh with exciting new ideas. He's not old school politics and the "we can't" attitude that seems to exist.
3) He's NOT about fear mongering!
4) I believe he can restore the faith of the world in our country and a Republican president would have still held the world in doubt.. so I guess that goes back to my #1.
5). Sorry..I just can not believe a man who owns so many houses he lost count that he's for the "little guy" .. I just can't. I can believe Obama.. who grew up in Chicago and is a half black and half white man .. a man who didn't have things handed to him because of who he was or his parents were. (not that McCain didn't work for what he had.. but his dad was a high up Admiral)... a man who's worked with the inner city.. a man who overcame stereotypes to become an educated well respected , well spoken smart intelligent man.. who is NOW president.. I can believe him.
The worst generation of our history, those kids born from 1980-1990's are voting and then tend to vote for anyone who will further give them a handout, a freebie or something they do not have to work for.
Guess who those losers are going for?
If they get their lazy butts out of bed or off the booze in time to vote.
Look at the lines on TV, all of us can see who is working and who is NOT.
Do I get a trophy for being in the "Worst Generation of History"?
Let's see here. I honestly could not look at the lines to tell who was working and who wasn't. Both my husband and myself *22 and 21 respectively* were at the polls at 0615; sorry I missed the opening by 15 whole minutes. After spending four hours in the voting line, I was really happy that my job lets people come in late to vote... and pays them for their time.
Point of the matter is that not all "older" people are wise nor the "younger" crowd a bunch of nitwits. With age comes life experience, but not necessarily intelligence, common sense, wealth, class, or any other things that people get on "my generation" for lacking.
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I also spoke to some who thought he was "pro-gay" (even though he's NOT!) 
