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Old 11-03-2008, 06:55 AM
 
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So...since 99% of McCant voters are "lowInformation" types who eschew "that thinkin' stuff" who do you think these repub bozo's will float in the bowl for cabinet posts??? Already have Joe the phony plumber for secretary of chicanery. Other GOP favortites might include Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Hulk Hogan a few porn stars and country western singers. AWE shucks, doggone it and geewilikers there's a big talent pool out there for these cretins. Git 'er done so ya'll can say ya got 'er did! Yeee Haw!
wow...it is unbelievable people actually think like this!

This is the reason American is so messed up. People think like this instead of trying to work together. This post is a more uneducated and ignorant attitude than anything I have seen in a long time!
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:56 AM
 
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This post is so truly ignorant that I considered not even responding. After some consideration, I decided to respond and defend the younger generation that is voting Obama (including myself and my fiance).

Let me start off by saying I am 31 years old, my fiance is 28, we earn around 75k per year, we were both born, raised, and live in rural Nebraska.

As far as why I'm voting Obama? He is the better candidate in my opinion and I've been following this race closely for two years. I am not voting for him because it's "the thing to do." I respect a man who's willing to consider another point of view, who's willing to admit it when he's wrong and is willing to admit that he will make mistakes. He's willing to talk to everyone because he realizes that there's nothing to lose and everything to gain. You can talk about change, George W. Bush talked about change and delivered none. So I have no doubt that Obama will not be able to change this country as much as he wants. But he is a person that a world community respects. Most of all, its time for a person with a different world view to accept the challenge he wrongs created during the last eight years.

So you can tell me how ignorant I am but I am not voting out of fear or to offset the balance of power. Answer this: why should I have confidence in McCain when many of his supporters are voting that way even though he is the inferior candidate. If he were smarter, better, more articulate, he would have won at least one debate. He didn't. He would have raised more money from a wealthy constituency. He didn't. He would have blown Obama away with his fame and recognition. He didn't.

What he did do was select an underqualified VP choice that nearly everyone fears will be POTUS in the unfortunate circumstance that McCain pass away in office. A politician in Chicago is much different than a mayor of a town of 7,000. I live in a Suburb of a town with 30,000 and I wouldn't want my mayor to be VP let alone President. He outsmarted himself with the selection and she is clearly out for herself. Had he made a wise pick like Romney, he may doing better in the polls.

The last thing I would like to say is this. No matter who wins, this will not be the end of the world as we know it. Life will carry on like it always has. Obama will not bring Socialism to this country (at least not any more than it already has).
you are kidding yourself if you think that the people that have had to keep paying to support more social programs for the people who are not paying (including the illegal immigrants) will continue to do so! the taxpayers are pretty fed up!
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Texas
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wow...it is unbelievable people actually think like this!

This is the reason American is so messed up. People think like this instead of trying to work together. This post is a more uneducated and ignorant attitude than anything I have seen in a long time!
Amen!!
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:00 AM
 
Location: wrong planet
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And the gap between Obama and McCain narrows at about age 25, after they get into the real world and realize blind idealism means squat there.

Well, uh - no. Not one of the people we know is voting for McCain...at least no one is admitting to it. Some are voting Obama and some are voting 3rd party candidate. None of them want more of the "SAME" we had the past 8 years and we are all 40+... and not one of us has ever been on "public assistance" , is unemployed or a "terrorist lover" - imagine THAT. So much for stereotypes.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Maybe the post was a little over the top, but a lot of people can empathize with the poster's frustration. After 8 years of superstars like Alberto Gonzalez and Mike Brown getting appointed to positions way over their heads because of their political sucking up. And now Sarah Palin?

It would be nice to see capable people again in important government positions.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Omaha, NE
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you are kidding yourself if you think that the people that have had to keep paying to support more social programs for the people who are not paying (including the illegal immigrants) will continue to do so! the taxpayers are pretty fed up!
Am I not a taxpayer? I am an educated professional living in the Midwest and I am voting for what I think is the best candidate so no, I'm not kidding myself. By the way, the Republican argument would be the same had Hillary Clinton won the primary. Every Republican thinks a Democrat (whether it be Obama or someone else) is a Socialist. This is a philosophical difference that will never go away. If McCain wasn't a Socialist, why did he vote for the bailout. Ask yourself that for the next two days until you go to the polls.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:04 AM
 
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Maybe the post was a little over the top, but a lot of people can empathize with the poster's frustration. After 8 years of superstars like Alberto Gonzalez and Mike Brown getting appointed to positions way over their heads because of their political sucking up. And now Sarah Palin?

It would be nice to see capable people again in important government positions.
gee, i guess 2 years of democratic control isn't enough to get anything done except bailouts for wall street!
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:07 AM
 
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McCain is old, Obama is young. Thus it follows, in the minds of voters young and old, that a McCain presidency will benefit old folks and an Obama presidency will benefit young folks.

The truth is, both candidates are pandering to the AARP right now. Both candidates are planning to continue to mortgage the future of young people, by spending billions and billions: expanding social security & medicare in the face of a looming deficit, spending trillions to bail out banks and prop up the Baby Boomers' home prices, spending billions on healthcare which will disproportionately benefit Baby Boomers.

None of that is "paid for" yet, we just borrowed it. Guess what generation gets to pay it all off, including the Iraq war?
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:21 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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young people are idealistic - they have that luxury.
whether that idealism correlates with idiocy is entirely in the eye of the beholder, i suppose.
at the very least, showing some interest in the way the country is run has got to have an up-side, no?
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I am so sick of all these young people following Obama like blind sheep. Many of them don't even know what he stands for, but are out for Obama because its the "thing to do". They need to look beyond the gay issue and their anger at the religious right, and think about issues like taxes, jobs, energy, and national security that will affect them. Obama's plan will raise taxes on people making as low as $42,000/yr, kill jobs as small businesses will go under, he is against clean coal and nuclear, increase the already monstrous national budget, and is weak on national security almost to the point he could be considered a terrorist sympathizer. Yet nearly 8 out of 10 young people are lining up like sheep to vote for him. This isn't elementary school where everyone is a winner or little league soccer where everybody gets the same trophy so nobody's "feelings are hurt". This is the real world, and this generation needs to step into it.
We need change. And Obama is the change we need!! Change is exactly some of the points mentioned in your text above. Some we may like, some we may not. That happens with any and every candidate.
I am voting for Obama due to the hope, strength, courage, wisdom, and equal rights he represents for all Americans. He is the future. The younger generation sees this, and I think they are right in their choice of support behind Obama!
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