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Old 10-13-2017, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Moldovan colony)) yeah, in the USSR, Moldavia was one of the most enviable places in the community.Live in Chisinau was very prestigious. Colony, excuse me, that's different.
This does not fit into the system of Western propaganda. And unfortunately, it gradually ceases to fit into our system of values. "Because we are no longer orcs."


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Old 10-13-2017, 04:37 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Please, stop a heavy drugs.
That member has a point. Russians are fundamentally Slavic, of course, but they assimilated a lot of Finno-Ugric peoples into their gene pool.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Russia
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That member has a point. Russians are fundamentally Slavic, of course, but they assimilated a lot of Finno-Ugric peoples into their gene pool.
And this is the reason that Russians want to attack Finland. Okay, sorry. It's not drugs. It's just a point.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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so then you don't deny it? Anyway Russia and Nato, there is Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council

also in April 2012, there were some protests in Russia over their country's involvement with NATO, mostly made up of Ultranationalist and Pro Leftist groups and in December 2009, NATO approached Russia for help in Afghanistan, requesting permission for the alliance to fly cargo (including possibly military ones) over Russian territory to Afghanistan, and to provide more helicopters for the Afghan armed forces.[13] Russia has so far denied these requests, although it has continued to allow transit of non-military supplies through its territory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO%E...ssia_relations
Hell no I won't deny it. Those are trip wires and necessary in the current climate besides, what about the people there? What about the military infrastructure being built in Romania, Bulgaria and Poland? If you were Shoigu what would you be thinking? If you were on the Russian general staff what would you see?

I still don't seem to be able to get an answer to that simple question. I'll ask it again.

Why isn't Russia in NATO?
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Hell no I won't deny it. Those are trip wires and necessary in the current climate besides, what about the people there? What about the military infrastructure being built in Romania, Bulgaria and Poland? If you were Shoigu what would you be thinking? If you were on the Russian general staff what would you see?

I still don't seem to be able to get an answer to that simple question. I'll ask it again.

Why isn't Russia in NATO?
I'm not saying what Russia is doing is a bad thing, and can be given evidence for justification, but the fact still remains that Russia looks for opportunities to incite or support ethnic minority rebellions in neighboring countries as bargaining chips and expand influence in those countries. And I don't deny that other countries do the same such as the US with Kurdistan and Kosovo.

Sorry that I wasn't able to answer your NATO question, I didn't have the time to finish my answer. Now to be frank I don't know, but in any case it wouldn't turn out well if Russia had joined. The US is clearly the leader of NATO and if Russia had joined they would've needed to submit to the US which I don't think Russia and it's citizens would like very much. So I think it has do with both countries having big egos. The US doesn't want to step down from a leadership role, and Russia doesn't want to submit.
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Finland
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I still don't seem to be able to get an answer to that simple question. I'll ask it again.

Why isn't Russia in NATO?
Russia didn't want to join. It wanted to play a superpower, probably fueled by some romantic make-belief..
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:18 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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The rulers of Russia would never accept the conditions to join NATO. Rule of law, democracy, many things related to that are required. You can look these things up in the membership action plans. That's why Ukraine has a long ways to go if it really plans to join. But Russia is still controlled by those who would lose their status if they opened up the rule of the country to competition. On the contrary, they can hold onto power by presenting Europe and NATO as a threat which only their leaders can protect them from.
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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The rulers of Russia would never accept the conditions to join NATO. Rule of law, democracy, many things related to that are required. You can look these things up in the membership action plans. That's why Ukraine has a long ways to go if it really plans to join. But Russia is still controlled by those who would lose their status if they opened up the rule of the country to competition. On the contrary, they can hold onto power by presenting Europe and NATO as a threat which only their leaders can protect them from.
Then why is Turkey in NATO? Or Greece? (Greece was a dictatorship 1967–1974 and they joined in 1952)
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Old 10-13-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Then why is Turkey in NATO? Or Greece? (Greece was a dictatorship 1967–1974 and they joined in 1952)
You ask too many questions. You are agent of bloody Mordor.
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Old 10-13-2017, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Russia didn't want to join. It wanted to play a superpower, probably fueled by some romantic make-belief..
Russia didn't want to join in the proposed conditions.
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