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And why we need to start that gamble? Wasn't it obvoius that it will be an absurd one? Besides, we already annexed one territory. The other countries reacted quite calm. We should have stopped. Ok, perhaps the militaries wanted to return the naval base. Ok, they did it. Stop.
But no, someone became insane and decided that he can do everything he wants... And the reasons? The idea that the lives of the population were in danger, that the far-right activists come and kill them all as during WWII, was an absurd one.
The reasons?
The cultural and historic ties of the population of the East Ukraine to Russia. No one asked them on Maidan whether "getting in Europe" was what they wanted.
And yes, their language and culture were under fire just for being who/what they are in *New, Europeanized Ukraine,* lol.
Considering the age of the US and its track record -
You're deflecting.
I'm not saying the US has a great track record. That's not even the discussion. My point is that it's NOT the business of the US to get involved in this situation because it wasn't our plane, our citizens, our land, our loss, our rebels, or even our equipment. The other parties involved have full capability of handling this entirely on their own and if it's important enough to them, they will do so - and CAN do so without our involvement.
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- How rebels can solve their problems? Nowise.
- Is our language is so under fire? All people who wanted, became citizens of the independent state, without special exams in language, as far as I know. They speak Russian and they will speak it in the future.
- Belarus has much weaker national movement, people there speak our language, a lot of them didn't want independence, but now they got used to it.
A normal solution would have been a well-organized Commonwealth with one currency. I'm upset that such a scenario wasn't made in the past, both countries would have been stronger. But to send the rebels? No, we made the bad things only worser.
The plane was full of Dutch citizens. I'd say the Netherlands has some interest in the situation - or at least they SHOULD, and they're an EU member state. That's my frame of reference.
For that part yes, of course, and it's in the EU's interest of ending this conflict.
I was referring to the false claim often Russian propaganda victims often say that EU was actively staging a coup and would try to "steal" Ukraine from the hands of Russia. And would now be giving aid to the Ukrainian government and use it as a weapon against Russia. But they don't realise that, the Russians are still in their Cold War trenches while the EU has risen from them, filled them, and planted trees on the ancient trenches.
For that part yes, of course, and it's in the EU's interest of ending this conflict.
I was referring to the false claim often Russian propaganda victims often say that EU was actively staging a coup and would try to "steal" Ukraine from the hands of Russia. And would now be giving aid to the Ukrainian government and use it as a weapon against Russia. But they don't realise that, the Russians are still in their Cold War trenches while the EU has risen from them, filled them, and planted trees on the ancient trenches.
Oh right - that's craziness there (EU trying to snatch Ukraine).
I'm not saying the US has a great track record. That's not even the discussion. My point is that it's NOT the business of the US to get involved in this situation because it wasn't our plane, our citizens, our land, our loss, our rebels, or even our equipment. The other parties involved have full capability of handling this entirely on their own and if it's important enough to them, they will do so - and CAN do so without our involvement.
Someone gets run over - no reason to call 911 - not my problem.
Yes. In Kiev, Odessa, Mariupol, Slavyansk, Donetsk, Lugansk, etc. killing many people. You can say that militias receive orders from Russia. Possible. Maybe there is a little help. But it's a drop in the sea.
In Crimea, the victims almost was not. This is stabilizing the situation.
The situation was set on fire in Kiev. Russia only reacts and defends.
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