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in this Putin has found allies in the face of Merkel.
So, Merkel is his ally? What's wrong she said? What your country needs decentralization is the common opionion. Austria, Belgium, Germany are the federated states. Spain isn't, but it's autonomies have a lot of rights.
does Russia really want another new independent state at its border, who is permanently
fighting in words and deeds with another neighbor ?
Russia already made clear that they wanted one Ukraine under a Yanukovich-like government.
You know for themselves I know they believe the slights they feel are warranted yet their actions arguably run to humiliation and degradation of their enemies as the parade of their prisoners in Donetsk show. It would seem to me they have no 'order' and run around simply shooting guns. If there's a 'platform' it's hard to see an intelligent presentation of grievances. This is a group that has terrible PR.
This parade was not about "inhumane treatment of prisoners" per se; DNR has agreement with Ukrainians, they regularly make exchanges of POWs and so on.
It was not "directed" at prisoners themselves with a purpose to threaten or humiliate them - it was a referral to the events of the 17th of July, 1944 when defeated German troops were paraded through Moscow.
So it was really a staged political action.
In Donetsk it was a reminder, a statement what they consider this war to be all about, how they view it, particularly in the light of the "Independence Day" parade in Kiev.
Nope, nothing "inhumane" here, and as some Russian posters are saying, now these soldiers are REALLY running a risk to be shot by their own as being "not trustworthy" enough.
So, Merkel is his ally? What's wrong she said? What your country needs decentralization is the common opionion. Austria, Belgium, Germany are the federated states. Spain isn't, but it's autonomies have a lot of rights.
Merkel is the best you can have. Be realistic.
Do not vouch for the accuracy of the quotes - is a double translation from German - but I think the meaning is clear.
'Ukraine should take the necessary decision and end the conflict in the country and with Russia. Ukraine must make peace with Russia and to enter into a Customs Union. This will save face of Putin.
' Merkel.
You know how it is called? The trade morality, or easier - Prostitution.
I didn't think, that Ukraine can have prostitute as a friend.
Okay, rough neck Scratch: You said my views are mysterious. Breaked down to simplistics. So, here's the deal:
For certain reasons I have to choose my side - and the side is Ukraine. But at the sametime i'm glad that Selena is not a corpse and back posting again, although i don't not agree with all she has to say.
And then there are some women here on this thread that gets my flagpole risin'.
This parade was not about "inhumane treatment of prisoners" per se; DNR has agreement with Ukrainians, they regularly make exchanges of POWs and so on.
It was not "directed" at prisoners themselves with a purpose to threaten or humiliate them - it was a referral to the events of the 17th of July, 1944 when defeated German troops were paraded through Moscow.
So it was really a staged political action.
In Donetsk it was a reminder, a statement what they consider this war to be all about, how they view it, particularly in the light of the "Independence Day" parade in Kiev.
You have to remember that this is the worst propaganda there is available (from a Russian perspective).
Ok, a 1944 revival, and that was humiliating at the time, and people here in the west had gone forward even before. Farmer Günther Bauer from Aschaffenburg wasn't responsible for Hitler's acts. Those parades would've been unacceptable already in 1815.
These acts of humiliation only reinforce the barbarian or untermensch mentality about Russians in all of us. And the less we want to have to do with these people.
If Europeans will ever accept the Russians as even nearly equals, you can't just throw Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky towards us, when the reality is road rage dashcam videos, bad-behaving babushkas and leather-coat mafia bandits leading football clubs.
General Lucius Clay, the US commander during the Berlin air bridge said "Dealing with the Russians quickly taught that they understand nothing but force, never barter with them without showing it". All Europeans should learn and take that as the guideline. As we've seen, soft speak doesn't get you anywhere.
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What's wrong she said? What your country needs decentralization is the common opionion. Austria, Belgium, Germany are the federated states. Spain isn't, but it's autonomies have a lot of rights.
