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Old 02-23-2014, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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Originally Posted by iNviNciBL3 View Post
You guys made it on our local news station here in middle america.
which is big because its rare for our news to report on events outside the united states

I want, that you knew that takes place. Now many countries have wrong information...And does not know why we did revolution. I can not read a lie on foreign forums.It very offensively.
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Old 02-23-2014, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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I hope and pray that Ukraine's future will be better than its past, which was full of violence (hundreds of thousands dying in the 20th century alone) and partition.

History of Ukraine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I wonder what role the churches are playing in what is currently going on. I don't think many of the young protesters are churchgoers.

Thank you. Unfortunately we already had revolution in 2004, but politicians betrayed us. Life became such bad, that we hated anymore... And in 2014 on the second revolution in us began to shoot....And it is the last straw. I am 28 years, and I want that I and my children could living by the normal civilized life. I hope we will obtain it.
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Old 02-23-2014, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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True that. Iraq was invaded because Saddam threatened to quit trading oil in dollars. Same thing with Syria, Libya, etc. It's funny that fellow Americans actually believe this is all about "spreading freedom and democracy". Anyone who refuses to play ball with America, the IMF, the world bank, is swiftly dealt with.
I hope that if Ukraine will become part of game of the USA, the USA will be very careful and we will be helped indeed... Now Ukrainians disbelieve nobody, and if America will betray us, it will make off the real bloodshed from both sides... It is impossible such to assume.
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Old 02-23-2014, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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Seems the future of Ukraine is heading towards is not going to be pretty ugly. A bloody civil war similar to the current situation in Syria could happen if the opposition isn't crushed immediately or it turn out like the current situation in Egypt where emergency measures were taken to suppress groups deemed politically unacceptable to the military. My bet is the opposition gets crushed in about 7 to 10 days due to the government already has them isolated and surrounded and most of them will get rounded up and in put in prison.
I hope you will lose your bet.
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Old 02-23-2014, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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Looks like i was totally wrong. Seems the military may have split loyalties and cannot be counted upon to to back the state hence the pursuance of a truce after the escalation of aggressive force. I don't know who is advising Yanukovych but whoever is doing so is not giving him good advice. The decision to escalate the use of force has openly exposed Yanukovych's major weakness in that he doesn't have complete loyalty with the armed forces with possibly a majority of the armed forces may side with the opposition.

Yes, Yanukovych passed a border. Peaceful revolution was 3 months, while power did not make condition to halt. And Yanukovych dunderheaded politician. He thought that a weapon will be frightened by a population and they will abandon an area. But Ukrainians did not abandon... He had a chance to agree, but he did not use him and preferred to shoot...



Штурм майдана 18 02 19 02 2014 Евромайдан 18 февраля 19 февраля - YouTube
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Old 02-23-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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I hope you will lose your bet.
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Don't worry. He already lost his bet
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Old 02-23-2014, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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And if to be distracted... Two days back opened the residence of Yanukovych for people. Simply shocked riches and luxury all population of Ukraine...A manor already entered in the book of records as the dearest in Europe... Today he was passed in a propert by the states and allowed there people on an excursion. Here reference, text translation is not needed, main- pictures.

В гостях у Януковича: экскурсия по Межигорью / Гордон
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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I think Ukraine will have a good future, it showed it does not want to be mired in corruption and backwardness like Russia.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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You guys made it on our local news station here in middle america.
which is big because its rare for our news to report on events outside the united states
The problem is, that that's what's making the news everywhere in the US, but THIS - does not.

That's today's pro-Russia's huge meeting in Sebastopol, Crimea


Севастополь (23.02.2014) Митинг в городе герое Севастополе - YouTube

and this is - the welcoming of "Berkut" back home - (those special forces that took part in Maidan's events) in yet another Eastern Ukrainian city - Donezk.


Встреча 'Беркут' Донецк 23 02 2014 - YouTube

( We should pay attention that neither Putin, nor Russian troops are anywhere around - it's all taking place independently from him/them.)
Yet if anything like this will happen in the future, my fellow Americans sitting on the couch and watching the tube after dinner will ask yet again in bedazzlement; "Now what's going on here?
The last thing we remember were all those happy faces of victorious Ukrainians, then what's his name... Yanukovi.. gone and... (pass me another bag of chips - will you, ) what the heck happened?
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