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I'm sure you know Turkey is not an Arab country.Secularity in Turkey is under constant attack unfortunately.My hope is something will change in the elections in 2019.
Of course I know it isn’t an Arab country, never suggested otherwise. All I said was that despite its problems, Turkey is still far ahead in its secular stance than any other Arab country in the ME or Iran. Both Israel and Turkey, despite having a strong religious current, still offer a greater degree of tolerance than any other ME country.
Hey Maksim, just curious have you spoken with locals in Crimea, particularly Tatars as well as Ukrainians? I heard that schools don't offer Ukrainian language any longer in Crimea. I also heard there are a lot of raids in Tatar communities and a lot of Tatars getting arrested. But this is mainly from western news sources, My dad who still keeps in touch with family and friends has no bad news to share so was just wondering from your point of view.
It seemed to me that people there are divided into 2 categories. Urban residents who do not have land. They are very satisfied with joining Russia. And rural residents who have land. They sometimes attach lands to their sites in violation of legislation. They are not happy, because government can be taken away their lands.
Also people are unhappy that people in the Crimean government remained the same as in past. Many people hoped for change, but Russia did not make major changes, which is quite logical (this could provoke protests).
Merchants are unhappy with a tightening of requirements for trade. But I am satisfied with the tightening of requirements, because food has become safer.
People were unhappy with the complexity of a new paperwork.
In my opinion, the problem with the Tatars is exaggerated. They are mostly rural residents and worry about their farming and their business. But this is not political unrest. Only a small part of the Tatars has a political requirement. The history of relationship between Russians and Crimean Tatars is not only deportation in the 20th century. There is still a history before the 20th century, and I think everyone understands this.
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I heard that schools don't offer Ukrainian language any longer in Crimea.
Even in Ukraine's times, Ukrainian schools were almost non-existent in the Crimea. If I'm not mistaken, there were only 7 schools for the entire peninsula (2 million people) in 2010.
Even in Ukraine's times, Ukrainian schools were almost non-existent in the Crimea. If I'm not mistaken, there were only 7 schools for the entire peninsula (2 million people) in 2010.
Yes, but the younger generation had already gone to Western Europe to clean the toilets of Deutsche Bank and HSBC et al., so 7 schools would've been sufficient? What is the average age of a person living in Crimea anyway, 60?
Yes, but the younger generation had already gone to Western Europe to clean the toilets of Deutsche Bank and HSBC et al., so 7 schools would've been sufficient?
The Ukrainian population is unequivocal.
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What is the average age of a person living in Crimea anyway, 60?
In my opinion, the problem with the Tatars is exaggerated. They are mostly rural residents and worry about their farming and their business. But this is not political unrest. Only a small part of the Tatars has a political requirement. The history of relationship between Russians and Crimean Tatars is not only deportation in the 20th century. There is still a history before the 20th century, and I think everyone understands this.
Is that why yesterday Russia sentenced one of their leaders to 2 years in a penal colony? Umerov's crime was being against the annexation. Yeah there won't be political unrest because even saying Russia does not own Crimea is a criminal offense there now. They won't even allow the Tatars to freely elect their own governing body because it won't be "Pro Russian". Oppressive Russians control Tatars through this kind of intimidation mixed in with disappearance and torture. That's not some propaganda, I'm quoting the UN report.
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