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Old 12-14-2017, 10:24 PM
 
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It's not odd Ruth.
The capital is still concentrated in Moscow, and from THERE the decisions are made, how that capital is going to be distributed and where.
Do you think the rest of Russia (and Russians) hate Moscow ( and Moscvovites) for no reason?
Yeah, that's why Moscow looks so spiffy, while a lot of other Russian cities - not so much.
All the foreign banks reps were/are sitting there.


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Old 12-15-2017, 01:16 AM
 
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The gray-haired Emperor.


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Old 12-15-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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Practically Chengiz-Khan.
( since he looks mongoloid to some imaginative posters here))))
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Old 12-15-2017, 11:17 AM
 
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A lot of Russians have Asian features. My ex had a squarish face with slightly almond shaped eyes. There's Asians with Caucasian features too. I saw a woman in Novosibirsk with long black hair, tall and strongly built, almond shaped blue eyes. The eyes were very striking to me. Looking at people around the world is very interesting. Compare the Persian nose to the nose of some Mezoamericans. tHey're definitely related.
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Old 12-15-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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Practically Chengiz-Khan.
( since he looks mongoloid to some imaginative posters here))))

Here we go again
Next expect teaching in how Russians should look like supported with Cretinoid pictures of different "Russian types" from their 19 century textbooks
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:45 PM
 
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All people have their stereotypes. They all have elements of truth.

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Old 12-15-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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USSR economy could never compete with the west, that is the reason why it did collapse.
Correct. The Soviet economic model lacked the diversity of Western countries. They were ahead throughput the 50’s and 60’s but started losing the race afterwards. The interesting thing about communism though (at least the one that Marx talked about is that it was meant to be the final stage in economic development. Capitalism was a stepping stone needed to reach the final utopia.

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"Dismantling" nowadays happen in economic form. The West plan was to make Russia weak and unstable (supporting occasional hotbeds of separatism end ethic revolt "chewing" at the edges), a docile Russia ready to "integrate" in the western economic/financial system....it did not work out.
There was no plan to make Russia weaker. Russia failed in the 90’s like many former Soviet bloc countries because they didn’t know how to transform from a socialist economic model to a laissez-faire one. Of course, blaming the west does wonders to stoke the fires of nationalism. People always need scapegoats. Even in the US, the SU was portrayed as the ultimate antagonist to fuel pride.

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China managed its transformation from command and control economy (which in part still is) to capitalism and its confrontation with the West much better, keeping the "barbarians" out of the gate.

Why do you think China and Russia are finally agreeing to a strategic partnership despite their past differences?? China is not stupid and they realize they can be the next target if an issue arise in what they consider their sphere of influence.
The South China Sea doesn’t belong to China. Why do you think Japan, Vietnam, SK, Phillipines and Indonesia are wary?
Stop portraying Russia and China as innocent bystanders (this is a Botticelli tactic) Nothing could be further from the truth.

In fact parallels can be drawn between Taiwan and Ukraine. Both Russia and China hold claims to territories over there, yet most residents do not wish to join the bigger neighboring country. Botticelli has been told off countless times by Greysholic. All the Ukrainians on this board have spoken against Putin.
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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Actually that was a genius move from the founding fathers.

Maybe in the 18th century, however it’s incredibly outdated nowadays and I’m not saying it to counter Trump, just that it doesn’t represent people well anymore. I think France has a great system in place where elections are determined by popular vote.

The problem with the electoral college is that it makes the voices of millions essentially null and void. If you live in a state that votes blue, you might as well not vote red and vice-versa. Why not have each vote count and ignore federal subdivisions in this context (states).

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I agree but the US is the current king of the hill...the future could be different, empires and powerful countries come and go.
Sometimes for the worse. Look at the aftermath following the collapse of the Western Roman Empire. It took Europe a whole millennium to recover lost knowledge.

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I would have picked a different source of inspiration than Musk, however.....nobody denies the good/excellent things that America has and the ideals it represents...I'm a naturalized American myself and I hold an engineering degree......the problem is hubris, it is human nature and it it's often leads to overreaching....
I used Musk because he’s a prominent figure in this day and age, regardless of who successful his different ventures are.
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:44 PM
 
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Very well, if you are talking in terms of "greatest" and not the "best," I'll make it very simple;
I've already lived once in the "greatest country" before, and I knew that it was doomed long before the cracks became visible to everyone. I know what I witnessed back then, and I know what I am witnessing now. America is entering the early Gorbachev's period, the rest will follow.

If you are not the "best," you can't remain the "greatest" forever.
I understand your point, but there is a crucial difference between the Soviet Union and America. The former had many different republics in it, that wielded a great deal of autonomy. They had their own language and culture. These divisions make the possibility of a split more likely. America is more or less a uniform country where individual states hold a small degree of autonomy. The major divisions that exist are along political party lines.

How did you know the SU would collapse? Until the mid 80’s there were no signs of it.
What is your prediction of America’s future?
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:49 PM
 
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The economic advisors that oversaw the sharp decline in the Russian economy during the 90's were brought in from the US.

https://www.thenation.com/article/ha...oys-do-russia/

The outcome of attempts like this in the past has been that most plants would be closed and foreign banks and investors would cherry pick the most attractive assets. Soros and other EU investors were planning to split up Ukraine's natural gas distribution network. Hence, there were repeated attempts to prevent the Russian gas from bypassing Ukraine.
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