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Old 04-15-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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Government of RF is criminal group.
For helping restore peace in Syria and wiping out most of the ISIS?

European leaders of France and the UK should serve jail time for supporting ISIS linked groups in Syria and war crimes.
French and British should pay for all Syria destructions and deaths, Russia should impose a tax on natural resources exported to those countries to force them to pay.
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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Ichoro has pointed out more than once just what this is all about. Ultimately it comes down to the energy trade. People are far down the list, expendable.

Such is the standards of the western world.
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Near Luxembourg
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For helping restore peace in Syria and wiping out most of the ISIS?

European leaders of France and the UK should serve jail time for supporting ISIS linked groups in Syria and war crimes.
French and British should pay for all Syria destructions and deaths, Russia should impose a tax on natural resources exported to those countries to force them to pay.
Don't worry, Bachou' said none of the cuise missiles were efficient, 2/3 destroyed in the air by soviet S-200, and 3 people were wounded only.
When Bachou and Putinou say it's true, it's true.

On my side, I think we should give nukes to Ukraine. I'm not sure Ukrainians were very happy about what happened in Crimea. You know, a foreign power providing rebels with guns and co... And an entire region that leaves the country, and Russia greeting them with a big smile
Wait you are right: it is what happened in Syria with West providing weapons to rebels. Vilain West. Not in a good place to give lessons for sure

Oh but wait, you know, rebels in Donbass stronger than the Ukrainian army -lol-, it's not weird to you too? Maybe, there was someone helping them the same way?
Vilain Putin. Not in a good place to give lessons for sure

If you are smart enough to see through the game of the agressions of the West, then be smart enough to see through the agressions of Russia and Bachar. 50-50.

I agree, everyone should be punished, France, USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UK, but Russia too, and Bachar too.
Oh and providing weapons to islamists wasn't a totally a bad idea. Because they killed a lot of islamists in Rakka and Mossoul, the two cores of ISIS.
Islamists vs islamists. Or Rebels vs islamists?
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Old 04-15-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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Don't worry, Bachou' said none of the cuise missiles were efficient, 2/3 destroyed in the air by soviet S-200, and 3 people were wounded only.
When Bachou and Putinou say it's true, it's true.

On my side, I think we should give nukes to Ukraine. I'm not sure Ukrainians were very happy about what happened in Crimea. You know, a foreign power providing rebels with guns and co... And an entire region that leaves the country, and Russia greeting them with a big smile
Wait you are right: it is what happened in Syria with West providing weapons to rebels. Vilain West. Not in a good place to give lessons for sure

Oh but wait, you know, rebels in Donbass stronger than the Ukrainian army -lol-, it's not weird to you too? Maybe, there was someone helping them the same way?
Vilain Putin. Not in a good place to give lessons for sure

If you are smart enough to see through the game of the agressions of the West, then be smart enough to see through the agressions of Russia and Bachar. 50-50.

I agree, everyone should be punished, France, USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UK, but Russia too, and Bachar too.
Oh and providing weapons to islamists wasn't a totally a bad idea. Because they killed a lot of islamists in Rakka and Mossoul, the two cores of ISIS.
Islamists vs islamists. Or Rebels vs islamists?
Well said my friend. Everyone is guilty of something.
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Old 04-15-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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^

All true, all true.
The only problem I see with all that, is that it was not Russia that instigated the whole mess this time around.
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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For helping restore peace in Syria and wiping out most of the ISIS?

European leaders of France and the UK should serve jail time for supporting ISIS linked groups in Syria and war crimes.
French and British should pay for all Syria destructions and deaths, Russia should impose a tax on natural resources exported to those countries to force them to pay.
The Syria situation is equivalent to one where a homeowner is faced with vandals and murders that broke in. Anyone who takes the other side is denying the right to arm and defend oneself. That's why there are so many more people that are sympathetic to the Syrians. There are people who place humanity above geopolitics. It isn't like sports where the two sides fight out and they both go home. There are massive casualties and dislocations that were unnecessarily created by the US and its allies. The warmongers are constantly complaining about the expanding influence of Russia or Iran, but they forget that these are the unintended consequences of poorly choosing the wars they undertake. They're constantly having to justify engaging in new wars to correct the mistakes of the last one.

Don't like Politics forum since it is mostly click-baiting and trolling. People are creating threads to see how many views or replies they can get.
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Old 04-15-2018, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Russia
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I guess that's the best russophobes can do it given their intelligence level. Pathetic.
He post this video for the third or fourth time.
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Old 04-15-2018, 02:18 PM
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Location: California
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For helping restore peace in Syria and wiping out most of the ISIS?

European leaders of France and the UK should serve jail time for supporting ISIS linked groups in Syria and war crimes.
French and British should pay for all Syria destructions and deaths, Russia should impose a tax on natural resources exported to those countries to force them to pay.
The majority of ISIS wiping out was done by the US led coalition. Simply looking at a map tells you who conquered more of ISIS territory. The majority of Russian violence has been directed at Syrians opposed to the government. The safest most stable parts of Syria are the ones under American control in the North of the country.

If anyone deserves prison, it's putin for destabilizing the world and killing people.

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Old 04-15-2018, 02:37 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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On my side, I think we should give nukes to Ukraine. I'm not sure Ukrainians were very happy about what happened in Crimea. You know, a foreign power providing rebels with guns and co... And an entire region that leaves the country, and Russia greeting them with a big smile
Wait you are right: it is what happened in Syria with West providing weapons to rebels. Vilain West. Not in a good place to give lessons for sure

Oh but wait, you know, rebels in Donbass stronger than the Ukrainian army -lol-, it's not weird to you too? Maybe, there was someone helping them the same way?
Vilain Putin. Not in a good place to give lessons for sure

If you are smart enough to see through the game of the agressions of the West, then be smart enough to see through the agressions of Russia and Bachar. 50-50.
This is false equivalency. Most Ukrainians wanted self rule and so did most Syrians. Putin fought against both. He still is by denying any peaceful resolutions or (gasp) free elections in areas he has control of. He and his supporters believe self-rule is bad, because it can mean changing who is in power and in corrupt countries that affects who makes the most money.

Among the general populace you can always find a minority who also want an alternative to majority democratic rule because they are disadvantaged against the majority. Russians in Eastern Ukraine felt like their interests were harmed during the Euromaidan, so Putin had supporters in Donetsk probably in half the population at least. In Crimea, Putin had the majority who felt this way so he had an easy task, re-unite Crimea with Russia which was supported by 80% of the populace there. Sunni's in Iraq were majority of the guys fighting against the American occupation for the same reasons, they were losing their privileges in the new setup.
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Old 04-15-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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The majority of ISIS wiping out was done by the US led coalition. Simply looking at a map tells you who conquered more of ISIS territory. The majority of Russian violence has been directed at Syrians opposed to the government. The safest most stable parts of Syria are the ones under American control in the North of the country.

If anyone deserves prison, it's putin for destabilizing the world and killing people.
Still throwing crap on the wall to see what sticks? You're amusing.
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