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Old 07-02-2021, 10:21 PM
 
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Can you give an example of this composition in the 90s?


https://youtu.be/zJODMh2cULg

Can't stand that one, as *trendy* and "up to date" as he is)))
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Old 07-02-2021, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Sorry, but nobody outside of the former USSR has any clue about Russian music or cares about their backwards 90s style crossover pop. World's province, hah hah hah. All one of their Eurovision victories surely justifies that claim too. Just like calling Sputnik the "Vaccine for all mankind".

Slovakia used 20% of its sputnik doses and returned the to Russia today as nobody wants it. Out of 3,650,000 doses given in Slovakia, a whopping 40,000 were sputnik.
San Marino, which recently was the world leader in the death rate, became the first country to defeat the coronavirus. The decision to vaccinate with a Russian drug helped to achieve such success
COVID-19 left San Marino on Sputnik V

"Thanks to Sputnik V, the most successful vaccination campaign in Europe was carried out in San Marino: the average daily incidence in the state for 7 days in terms of 1 million people for May 3-9 is more than 40 times lower than the average for EU countries. At the same time, the results of the vaccination campaign in San Marino became obvious already 2 months after its start: the average daily number of detected cases of coronavirus fell 250 times from the peak in early April, since May 4, no new cases of coronavirus infection have been recorded in the country. Due to the lack of necessity, the department of the hospital intended for the treatment of patients with coronavirus was closed in San Marino"
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Old 07-03-2021, 12:03 AM
 
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Yes, you already wrote about this. Slavic languages have great flexibility and allow you to create additional beauty in combinatorial vocabulary. For example, homograms (омограммы) - a lines have same letters, but differ in spaces:

О, туман! - и куда? -
от ума - никуда.
С ума тошно мне,
суматошно мне.
Пост уже. Поп. Русь.
По стуже попрусь.
По этапу тьмой,
поэта путь мой...
/Дм. Авалиани/

I'm not sure if something like this is possible in English.

Not "Slavic languages" but specifically Russian I'd think.

Because pre-reformed Russian wouldn't have such flexibility.

And the rest of the "Slavic languages" are reminiscent of the archaic Russian if you ask me...
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Old 07-03-2021, 12:25 AM
 
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San Marino, which recently was the world leader in the death rate, became the first country to defeat the coronavirus. The decision to vaccinate with a Russian drug helped to achieve such success
COVID-19 left San Marino on Sputnik V

"Thanks to Sputnik V, the most successful vaccination campaign in Europe was carried out in San Marino: the average daily incidence in the state for 7 days in terms of 1 million people for May 3-9 is more than 40 times lower than the average for EU countries. At the same time, the results of the vaccination campaign in San Marino became obvious already 2 months after its start: the average daily number of detected cases of coronavirus fell 250 times from the peak in early April, since May 4, no new cases of coronavirus infection have been recorded in the country. Due to the lack of necessity, the department of the hospital intended for the treatment of patients with coronavirus was closed in San Marino"

I checked, and...yes.


"San Marino has administered at least one dose to 27 percent of its people, and could eventually emerge as a protected enclave while other parts of the continent are still fighting the worst of the virus."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ccine-sputnik/


https://www.prnewswire.com/it/comuni...851867104.html


https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...sm-2021-06-03/


Meanwhile the Russians...
"What? Vaccinating? Who? Us?



But seriously, the question now is this Delta variant.



Will any vaccine stand against it for real?
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Old 07-03-2021, 04:42 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Look at band "St. Petersburg Ska-Jazz Review"


https://youtu.be/IGOLQauE_TM


https://youtu.be/v3dpG0Ty0wQ

I will try to find more information about this genre in Russia in the music thread, but later. It's interesting, but I'm not really into this genre.
Interesting, jazz with a hint of Ska, very nice thanks for posting
I do have other musical interests as well, quite a wide range from across the years but I do seem to particularly like the eighties stuff! Love The Jam, The Stranglers and The Clash, once saw Pink Floyd at Wembley (many years ago), talking of jazz I'm not a big fan but quite like some of that Jazz fusion stuff, Lonnie Liston Smith and once saw Gil Scott Heron perform in Canterbury:-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoG4ziny-QI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfpRm-p7qlY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aRNUsmfeck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOeUpKCCSVQ
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Old 07-03-2021, 10:29 AM
 
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I don't know. I haven't heard them before . Wiki says they are Ukrainians.



I have not heard their songs before. And they're definitely not my type . I read about them on the Internet, they have Russian music awards, but these awards are just cr*p in my opinion. But my taste is very specific, I am not a professional.



I think that she should not return to Ukraine. But not only because of politics. Even Russian music scene is a world's province. Ukrainian scene is just a dot on the world's map with an emptiness inside.

Actually, Russian music scene is pretty advanced and well-represented in its great variety.

It's just that Russian artists/musicians (with few exceptions) don't market themselves for the international audience.
It's ME who seek specifically that outdated euro-disco style music on Russian sites, that is still popular in Russia too, after all these years.
And when I DO find it, chances are - it's made by the Ukrainians, someone like Artik & Asti or Maruv, or even Via Gra.)))



All while DKM thinks that it's the outdated "crossover pop from the 90ies Russian music."


And of course YOU out of all people ( judging by your comment in the reference of the "White man can't dance") are not aware that "Dance girl, dance," of Artik&Asti is the number one hit in Russia on the dance floor.



This the the original hit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb1_...&start_radio=1


and this is what it has been turned into for the "Ciao 2020" show - "Bambina Balla"


Damn creative on Urgant's part I'd say)))



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGpCwrsGctM
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Old 07-03-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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Of course it is for 99.9999% But we can do something like that from 2:00:


https://youtu.be/i9AHJkHqkpw

Impressive)))



On a second thought - it was a joke of course.
Because I watch the rehearsals of the GAANT from time time.
( Not to mention the classical ballet.)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJdENq42UCY






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvm4iZr92UQ
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Old 07-03-2021, 03:18 PM
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Meanwhile, record number of Russian singers and comedians gave concerts in Ukraine this year.

As much as the nationalists are trying to prohibit these events outlawing Russian language, as much as American embassy is trying to sow the animosity between Russians and Ukrainians, this is the point where these forces are failing.

Nothing can come between Russian rappers and their fans in Ukraine)))


THIS right here shows all the lies of the official propaganda/statistics about how many "Ukrainian speakers" vs Russian speakers are in Ukraine in reality.



Russian language still rules, no matter how much the bleating idiots are enforcing *love to Ukrainian art and culture.*

It's a stillborn child, as much as the whole project of the *great Ukrainian state.*
Did you know the majority of Ukrainians don't hate Russians? This fact is apparently one of a million you are unaware of. They hate Putin and the Russian state's actions, but don't hate Russians. That includes musicians, actors and their own relatives, love interests, etc. I have Russian friends too. Why would I hate them. Nothing odd about this at all. My Ukrainian friends listen to Russian music. Russian friends listen to Ukrainian music.

They still will kill your soldiers trying to invade them and tell them what to do. Turn off the propaganda, it has clearly rotted your brain.
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Old 07-03-2021, 04:43 PM
 
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Did you know the majority of Ukrainians don't hate Russians? This fact is apparently one of a million you are unaware of. They hate Putin and the Russian state's actions, but don't hate Russians. That includes musicians, actors and their own relatives, love interests, etc. I have Russian friends too. Why would I hate them. Nothing odd about this at all. My Ukrainian friends listen to Russian music. Russian friends listen to Ukrainian music.

They still will kill your soldiers trying to invade them and tell them what to do. Turn off the propaganda, it has clearly rotted your brain.

Since you obviously don't understand the situation over there, let me explain it to you again, in fine details.

For starters - there is no "Ukraine" that you are promoting.
There is South-Eastern part of it, a.k.a. "Russia Minor," and then there are western-most provinces, that had nothing to do with the Russian state ( culture, church) throughout history.

People from THAT part of the country hate Russia.

Russia DKM, not the "Russian government."

So these people are in charge of the whole "country" by now, and to which degree they brainwashed the rest of population ( particularly the younger ones,) greatly varies.

This is sort of reminiscent of the situation during the WWII, when part of the German soldiers thought that they simply came to "liberate Russia from the Jewish communists," while the other part was well-aware of the whole "racial theory," and was acting according to it.

So of course across the whole *Ukrainian territory* the attitudes vary, starting from Donbass that took arms in order to defend themselves, to people that hate even the word "Russia" as the source of all evil in the world.

I was listening another day the interview with Valentina Lisitsa - the world renown pianist, "the queen of Rakhmaninov," as she was dubbed, she ( although born in Kiev,) is regularly coming with concerts to Donbass ( Donetsk) from 2015.

Of course being the citizen of the US, her career is destroyed by now because of that ( that much for the "freedom of speech" in the West, but that's beyond the point I am making here.)
So when asked, "what made you think differently, what makes you hang on to your beliefs, because from the 90ies we have been bombarded ( the younger generation in particular) with the idea to lose our national consciousness, to lose our patriotism, to forget our history and our ancestors.
So why did it work with some and why it didn't work with other?"
Lisitsa gave a very interesting and unexpected ( to me) answer.

"Oh it's not just HERE - I see the same thing happening in Europe, I see the same thing happening in the US.
This massive "information attack" targeting the young people in particular, the younger generation - the history is re-written, changed..
-But why do THEY ( the Westerners) need that?

-I am not sure. It looks like they are pursuing their own agenda over there. It looks like they want to change the "genetic memory" of people."


And since you are the "corporate Democrat" DKM, you are one of those people promoting this trend.

And that's why I have to point over and over again, where you are going with the false information/false perception of things.



P.S. That's V. Lisitsa in Donetsk last month.

She said that when she arrived in the area for the first time back in 2015 and saw the first bombed schools, with gaping windows, she knew right away why she came to play for these people.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jXJkpuFXUM

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Old 07-04-2021, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Russia
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President Vladimir Putin has signed a law obliging foreign IT giants to establish their representative offices in Russia.
The measure affects companies with a daily audience of more than 500 thousand Russian users. The resolution obliges the owners of such information resources to create branches, representative offices or establish a legal entity to work in Russia, which will fully represent the interests of the parent companies and interact with regulators.
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