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Old 03-28-2017, 07:11 AM
Status: "Pickleball-Free American" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Most people on this forum are old-timers, so they are bound to believe in dated descriptions about these places.
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Old 03-28-2017, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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If you honestly find Cobb County GA cold.........yeah I've got nothing. Also keep in mind Dallas actually has more cold snaps than Atlanta does. Their averages are warmer but Dallas sits in an area where they can get temperature extremes. Could be 70 the one day and 30 the next. That's pretty common for Dallas in the winter. Personally I prefer North Georgia to Texas and Florida, in most aspects. I like the rolling hills and forest of North Georgia, far superior to flat boring Florida. If I'm being honest I think North Georgia has better weather than Texas and Florida but that's personal preference.
But the "cold" season in Dallas is shorter than in Atlanta too with more average days per winter at 70 or 80 degrees as well. Atlanta has quite a bit more freezes than Dallas does and typically earlier and later in the "cold" season. The amount of time the deciduous trees stay green is around a month-ish longer throughout the year.

While Dallas is in a region that doesn't have a major mountain chain North of it to block out some cold snaps, it is still at a lower altitude and at a latitude similar to the southern side of Macon, GA or Charleston, SC and is affected by weather from the deserts, etc.

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Old 03-29-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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While Dallas is in a region that doesn't have a major mountain chain North of it to block out some cold snaps, it is still at a lower altitude and at a latitude similar to the southern side of Macon, GA or Charleston, SC and is affected by weather from the deserts, etc.
This situation applies anywhere in North America east of the Rockies; while the Appalachians are present, they aren't tall enough to do any appreciable weather blocking. Thus, any city east of the Rockies is fair-game for cold snaps, so it is all a matter of simple jet-stream trajectory in determining the areas that get hit. Cities farther east at the same latitude can get just as cold or colder; both Montgomery and Macon have lower record lows than Dallas, and are much farther east.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montgo...labama#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macon,_Georgia#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas#Climate

The entire Eastern US is affected. Look at Miami, a "tropical" eastern US city far south on a peninsula out in warm ocean currents, with a lower record low than places in Portugal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbon#Climate
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Old 04-16-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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Comon now, lets not let our biases effect our opinion.. Texas is not exactly known for its beauty, you and I both know it. How about you post some pictures? If you do they will be mistaken for states such as Oklahoma and Kansas. There is a reason why Texas does absolutely pitiful at attracting tourists, and that is one of the main reasons why. Do you have a better reason why? Florida is known around the world as being one of only a couple high population lush tropical areas in the entire first world.

Texas might have a more varied landscape, but in my opinion it's one of the ugliest areas in the U.S. People criticize Houston and Dallas for being two of the ugliest major city landscapes in the U.S. on this forum all the time. Would you like me to link you some forum threads showing what people on this forum think of Texas's beauty? Tell me some things that are unique to Texas, I would love to hear them.

Florida blows Texas away in tourist numbers, and one of the major reasons why is the beautiful beaches and lush tropical environment. I'll post some pictures if you want, and people will guess they were taken in Florida right away. There's not many places in the U.S. that can say that. Once again if you would like to prove that Texas is anywhere as close to as beautiful as Florida just post pictures and let other people decide. The world has already voted by actually wanting to go to Florida a lot more than Texas. Do you understand how many more tourists Florida gets than Texas? It's more than 6 times as many and its almost the same number as California. Texas gets less tourists than Massachusetts.


//www.city-data.com/forum/city-...beautiful.html



Texas pitiful at attracting tourist is reflective of NO knowledge of the state! A state is nearly 1,000 miles at its long point and 860 miles from Orange, Texas to El Paso HAS to have as diverse eco-system and topography! East Texas is more like the Louisiana/Alabama and north Georgia...heavily wooded, pine trees and the biggest lake in the south (Toledo Bend, shared with Louisiana). Sam Houston National Forest is also there.


Dallas Fort Worth north to Oklahoma has rolling hills and a fair number of lakes (two big casinos in OK, just across the border by the way). To the west, along the Brazos River watershed, are some nice hills with limestone and lakes.


In the Panhandle, the second largest Canyon in the U.S. Palo Duro exists.
Head to the Hill Country for rustic living, Austin, San Antonio, German Heritage towns and great BBQ


Then to the coastal plains. Galveston, Corpus, Rockport, and South Padre Island.


Southwest Texas - home of Big Bend National Park and one of the few CERTIFIED DARK SKY areas in the lower 48 for great star gazing and camping. Out to El Paso where you have the Guadalupe Mountains, highest peak is nearly 9,000 feat. The University of Texas McDonald Observatory is on this mountain range.


The one problem with FLORIDA is frankly/honestly all sides look the same! If you put a blindfold on people and went from Pensacola, then to Jacksonville, down to Miami and over to Fort Myers, ALL of mother nature looks AND feels the same! The only difference is Man made architecture. And even that is pretty similar, Spanish/tropical influences abound.


Homes in El Paso reflect the desert southwest. Homes in Central Texas are known for their "Hill Country" design. Homes on the coast are like those you see in many Gulf Coast towns. Then you have many in Texas that are brick or like you see in Florida, Spanish tile. Florida slogan ought to be "its all the same". lol
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Old 04-16-2017, 06:28 PM
 
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Comon now, lets not let our biases effect our opinion.. Texas is not exactly known for its beauty, you and I both know it. How about you post some pictures? If you do they will be mistaken for states such as Oklahoma and Kansas. There is a reason why Texas does absolutely pitiful at attracting tourists, and that is one of the main reasons why. Do you have a better reason why? Florida is known around the world as being one of only a couple high population lush tropical areas in the entire first world.

Texas might have a more varied landscape, but in my opinion it's one of the ugliest areas in the U.S. People criticize Houston and Dallas for being two of the ugliest major city landscapes in the U.S. on this forum all the time. Would you like me to link you some forum threads showing what people on this forum think of Texas's beauty? Tell me some things that are unique to Texas, I would love to hear them.

Florida blows Texas away in tourist numbers, and one of the major reasons why is the beautiful beaches and lush tropical environment. I'll post some pictures if you want, and people will guess they were taken in Florida right away. There's not many places in the U.S. that can say that. Once again if you would like to prove that Texas is anywhere as close to as beautiful as Florida just post pictures and let other people decide. The world has already voted by actually wanting to go to Florida a lot more than Texas. Do you understand how many more tourists Florida gets than Texas? It's more than 6 times as many and its almost the same number as California. Texas gets less tourists than Massachusetts.


//www.city-data.com/forum/city-...beautiful.html
By the way...Florida does do more tourist numbers. God knows they need it because there is damn near little else industry there...tourism and retirement. that's it.


And you are speaking nonsensical about little tourism in Texas.
The Most Popular US States For Tourism - Business Insider Texas #4
Top 10 states for tourism TX #5


The 10 Most Visited States in the U.S. by Foreign Travelers - EscapeHere Texas #6.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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You link websites that are crappy slideshows and one even shows the numbers for Hawaii over both Florida and California. Those websites are garbage. They usually count anyone who has had a layover at the airport as a "tourist". That's why Atlanta ranks highly on some lists. msn.com haha.


The link below is from the 2014 U.S. government census. In 2014 Florida had 8.5 million international tourists and Texas had only 1.5 million. Florida had 6 times as many international visitors than Texas and even more than California. Six times more is a complete blowout, especially when talking about numbers so large. It even shows that the year over year growth was +18% in Florida, while Texas had -1% growth.


Miami city proper by itself had 4.8 million international visitors in 2014, more than both L.A. and Orlando. Heck, Fort Lauderdale city proper by itself almost beat Houston in international tourists. Pretty sad considering the sizes of all these city propers. Ft. Lauderdale had 792k and Houston 860k. The Florida Keys alone beat all of Dallas by themselves. The Keys had 482k while Dallas had 413k. Miami had a year over year growth rate of 21%. Dallas had -8% and Houston had 7%.


http://travel.trade.gov/outreachpage...and_Cities.pdf



The next website is a credible website with newer numbers. It shows the city of Miami by itself ranking 19th in the entire world with 7.9 million, doing almost the same as Tokyo's numbers. It even exceeded Los Angeles by a whopping 2 million tourists. That's unreal for a city of it's size and that doesn't even include all the other South Florida tourist cities. No Texas cities made the top 100. Even Washington D.C. was ranked only 94th with only 2 million total. I can only imagine where Dallas and Houston rank.

http://go.euromonitor.com/rs/805-KOK...l%20Report.pdf


Do you really think people are visiting Texas outside of the major cities​ as much you claim? I have never heard of anyone in my life going on vacation in Texas. Florida blows Texas away in tourists even without adding the Orlando area and Walt Disney, the most popular tourist attractions in the entire world.

I also find it ironic that a Texas poster is saying Florida's​ only industry is tourism. You're whole state was built on oil profits.


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Old 04-16-2017, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Unknown
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Let's end this Florida vs Texas scenery fued right now!

Palo Duro Canyons


Davis Mountains


Texas Hill Country


East Texas


Padre Island


Btw this is just a taste of Texas.
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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You link websites that are crappy slideshows and one even shows the numbers for Hawaii over both Florida and California. Those websites are garbage. They usually count anyone who has had a layover at the airport as a "tourist". That's why Atlanta ranks highly on some lists. msn.com haha.
And just where are these supposed 'lists' that you claim boost Atlanta's numbers by counting connecting passengers? I've never seen one anywhere, and I'm in the Travel industry.

Atlanta had 45 million visitors last year. Granted, we don't get nearly as many international tourists as Miami does - we're mostly about business here, but our numbers are increasing every year in that category.

If we counted connecting non-O&D passengers, we could claim well over 60 million visitors a year. Nobody does that.

Our numbers are very impressive though, and it's one of the reasons we have more hotel rooms than a tourism mecca like Miami. Atlanta is a top five convention city, and a LOT of business is also conducted here.
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:53 PM
 
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Do you really think people are visiting Texas outside of the major cities​ as much you claim?
Florida especially Miami receives alot of foreign tourists I'm not going to deny that. But saying Texas pales or doesn't have any scenic places in comparison is false.
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:10 PM
 
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And just where are these supposed 'lists' that you claim boost Atlanta's numbers by counting connecting passengers? I've never seen one anywhere, and I'm in the Travel industry.

Atlanta had 45 million visitors last year. Granted, we don't get nearly as many international tourists as Miami does - we're mostly about business here, but our numbers are increasing every year in that category.

If we counted connecting non-O&D passengers, we could claim well over 60 million visitors a year. Nobody does that.

Our numbers are very impressive though, and it's one of the reasons we have more hotel rooms than a tourism mecca like Miami. Atlanta is a top five convention city, and a LOT of business is also conducted here.

How about you post some sources and we will go from there.

If Atlanta actually does have more hotel rooms than Miami it's because the overwhelming vast majority of hotel rooms in the Miami area are outside of Miami city proper. The vast majority of hotel rooms in the Atlanta area are in the Atlanta city proper. Do you really think the Atlanta area has more hotel rooms than the Miami area? Do you you understand how crazy that sounds? Post some sources on both your claims and then we will see the truth.


Miami city proper did 4.8 million international visitors in 2014 and Atlanta did only 723 thousand. Even just the city of Ft. Lauderdale beat Atlanta with 792 thousand. You said Atlanta has 45 million visitors like it means 45 million tourists came to visit Atlanta. That's the craziest thing I've heard in a while. So Atlanta had under a million international visitors but had 44 million business travelers from around the U.S.?? Or is it you think that people from around the U.S. are coming to visit Atlanta as a tourist? That's ridiculous and the only reason why that number is so high is because they count the people who have layovers and transfers in the Atlanta airport. Me and you both know nowhere close to 45 million people are visiting Atlanta yearly.

http://travel.trade.gov/outreachpage...and_Cities.pdf


The thread below shows the top airports for O&D passengers. It shows the passengers actually going to visit each city, without showing layovers and tranfers. Miami ranked 3rd, even higher than Chicago. Atlanta ranked 13th. Miami had 131 thousand passengers per day while Atlanta only had 61 thousand. That's sad for being the largest airport in the world. That's a huge difference and just proves my point that the majority of people going to Atlanta are just there for layovers and tranfers. Post the list that shows the supposed 45 million visitors last year and I guarantee it will rank Atlanta as high as places like NYC and L.A. The reason is the Atlanta airport is huge and beats those other cities airports in layover "visitors".


//www.city-data.com/forum/aviat...arkets-us.html

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