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Old 11-30-2022, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Black Boston kind of reminds me of a Black Toronto/London with the diversity.

Is this Boston Fusion music popular?
It's similar but the Fusion music isn't as popular as it should be because of the presence of Black Americans and that background influence that is lacking entirely in Toronto or London. That's why a guy like 8 zipp is as popular as he is- because the makes American-sounding music. Short story: 2 weeks ago I was playing his music while giving an uber ride and i guess the rider happened to be on the phone with her cousin in Boston and the cousin on the phone was like 'whose playing in the background?; The rider asked me And I told her '8 zipp'. Her cousin ws on the phone like "say on dawgs?" I said "on dead dawgs". He recognized an 8 zipp track playing in the background on the phone..

But yea you can find it and hear it. It's very popular in certain nightlife venues like Icon, Savvor, Yas, Unity Cultural Club. Probably peaked in 2016/17 in terms of those style of mixes in the club.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPPggVJfkow


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IawsZDkwOQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDUfaxwJwGU


But its competing with people who make music like this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA95o9SqSRw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opEqAoUpvWc

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Old 11-30-2022, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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A lot of the Black American community in Boston is aware of, and connected to this gang music which really has no commercial purpose or viability and really isn't all that good. Former gang people control what gets played on B87 during a large part of the day. It repels the vast majority of the Boston MSA youth population.

B87: https://b87fm.com/shows

Mission Hill (Mission Main)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuo3VpYkEow

Roxbury (Bower Street/Charlame Court)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJZFTPG8vYA

Some artists making that style are better and more popular (Wave Capone, TwoGzlikeGucci, 8 zipp, SideStreet Capo, Trottie Y Gizzle) though....I gotta admit this might be my favorite 'hard' rap track ever in terms of the nihilism and iciness. But idk Vengeance was another good one thats way up there.
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Old 11-30-2022, 07:43 PM
 
Location: East Coast Superiority
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New Boston Fusion Music, youll hear French, Spanish, and English in this Afrobeats song. Artist is Cape-Verdean/Senegalese and DJs/producers are Nigerian. Has a feature form a Puerto Rican artist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7N1w0m-sjg
That's def an interesting vibe there. I've noticed afrobeat starting to creep into pop/r&b more lately (Wizkid, Burna Boy type etc)
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Old 12-02-2022, 09:13 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Got it re: Boston fusion music.

I will admit i'm a fan of drill music, mostly NY drill. Its interesting that besides its origin, Chicago, the areas in which its popular are all colder cities with large African and Caribbean populations. Drill has become quite popular in Africa and Continental Europe as well. Someone needs to do a study as why drill is so popular in these cities.

EDIT: just watched that video "Leave Me Alone", it looks like where i grew up in Suburban NJ lol. Is Mission Hill in Boston active like that? Or are those kids making that music because that's just the popular sound?
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Old 12-02-2022, 09:34 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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But its competing with people who make music like this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA95o9SqSRw

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This sounds quite similar to Jersey club rap

Bandmanrill is one of the more popular guys with this sound. He's from Newark. You'll notice its a mix of more mainstream hip hop, Jersey Club, and NY drill. It's popular with tiktok as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOUSPvy6drs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtnWvBk6rZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBWVSm_a5X8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcvW-jfuvo0

Cookie Kawaii from East Orange; more of a pop version of jersey club

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf4Be8xeD9c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHaoxU-GO8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfjW_S3W_Y4

A lot of Philly and NJ rappers have a club influenced sound now. See this song that's popping rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhbixyxgsiU
Lil Uzi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZvmu1wI5TI
featuring 2rare from Philly
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Old 12-02-2022, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Got it re: Boston fusion music.

I will admit i'm a fan of drill music, mostly NY drill. Its interesting that besides its origin, Chicago, the areas in which its popular are all colder cities with large African and Caribbean populations. Drill has become quite popular in Africa and Continental Europe as well. Someone needs to do a study as why drill is so popular in these cities.

EDIT: just watched that video "Leave Me Alone", it looks like where i grew up in Suburban NJ lol. Is Mission Hill in Boston active like that? Or are those kids making that music because that's just the popular sound?
Yes its one of the most active areas for youth banging. Its not suburban at all really. Theres a 1% chance these kdis are just doing it for the look. Its just a torn down and remodeled housing project- used to be the bricks. but its probably the most acive youth gang area the last 3/4 years. Fun fact: Shabazz Napier is from Mission Main and i heard some stories about him too..

Teenage gang members arrested at Mission Hill Middle School

Mildred Hailey teen charged with Mission Hill shooting

Streetview Mission Main:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3338...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3337...7i16384!8i8192


Its like a1.5 miles from downtown

What it looked like until 2001:

https://www.facebook.com/DirtyOldBos...6241137070018/

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/88/1f...f93f9d8633.jpg

Bower street is similarly built but much less active. St Josephs Saint are adjacent to them and they control the area. H Block is north of them. St Josephs and Bower Street/Charlame Cour were both demolished in the 1960s and these urban townhomes were built in their place. Thats the case with many fomer Bostonbrick projects.

Before drill St. Josephs was making gangsta music. The dude in this video- i know him. He is a "red alert" if you see him just leave. He was caught on dashboard cam shooting people on Dale street broad day in 2016 an it was all over the news but somehow he was back on the streets. He's out now still releasing music but he peaked back in 2014. 60 cap was hard because its his home address. 60 crisupus atacks palce.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxpzrC44UZQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyPqpuNEqbY

They beef with the dues over on St. James directly north of them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNy_k5ErsLo

Everything is much calmer now than when these videos were made 2014-2020. And even that feels slightly after my era.

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Old 12-02-2022, 09:55 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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I see. One of those areas that if you're not familiar you wouldn't know that its a "hood". DC/PG have a number of "hoods" that don't look like it IMO.
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Old 12-02-2022, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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This sounds quite similar to Jersey club rap

Bandmanrill is one of the more popular guys with this sound. He's from Newark. You'll notice its a mix of more mainstream hip hop, Jersey Club, and NY drill. It's popular with tiktok as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOUSPvy6drs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtnWvBk6rZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBWVSm_a5X8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcvW-jfuvo0

Cookie Kawaii from East Orange; more of a pop version of jersey club

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf4Be8xeD9c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHaoxU-GO8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfjW_S3W_Y4

A lot of Philly and NJ rappers have a club influenced sound now. See this song that's popping rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhbixyxgsiU
Lil Uzi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZvmu1wI5TI
featuring 2rare from Philly
Yea Banmanrill sounds like most of the Boston artists. Many of these Boston artist, like Wave Capone and SAOBD Shizz and BoriRock are in Brooklyn, Manhattan and the Bronx every month- click these hyperlinks to see what im saying. Probably biting.

That Lil Uzi song i first heard just now onn 97.1 as I drove through new york last week. It played on the Boston radio a lot too. Haven't heard it in Bmore.

The Zumpy song would be better with less singing if they just let it rock as more of a club song.

But yes I've definitely heard many NY artists go with the drill-club fusion and the late 90s and early 2000s samples. I prefer that over the Brooklyn drill weve had the last few years.


Heres another gem from a Hyde Park artist his Side Eye Freestyle reminded me of Lil Uzi Futsal Shuffle 2020. Unfortunately he is gone on a murder charge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z01t...dsQbUrOLGb5ErE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg0DFQJA950


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np7s...Gb5ErE&index=6

He samples Can you Stand the Rain decently here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_f6...Gb5ErE&index=3
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Old 12-02-2022, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yea Banmanrill sounds like most of the Boston artists. Many of these Boston artist, like Wave Capone and SAOBD Shizz and BoriRock are in Brooklyn, Manhattan and the Bronx every month- click these hyperlinks to see what im saying. Probably biting.

That Lil Uzi song i first heard just now onn 97.1 as I drove through new york last week. It played on the Boston radio a lot too. Haven't heard it in Bmore.

The Zumpy song would be better with less singing if they just let it rock as more of a club song.

But yes I've definitely heard many NY artists go with the drill-club fusion and the late 90s and early 2000s samples. I prefer that over the Brooklyn drill weve had the last few years.


Heres another gem from a Hyde Park artist his Side Eye Freestyle reminded me of Lil Uzi Futsal Shuffle 2020. Unfortunately he is gone on a murder charge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z01t...dsQbUrOLGb5ErE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg0DFQJA950


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np7s...Gb5ErE&index=6

He samples Can you Stand the Rain decently here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_f6...Gb5ErE&index=3
I saw that Benzino daughter (coo leroy) is a rapper. She grew up in Boston and New Jersey.
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Old 12-02-2022, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I saw that Benzino daughter (coo leroy) is a rapper. She grew up in Boston and New Jersey.
I’m aware she was in Roxbury during thanksgiving, she was walkin around.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClXuymHt...d=MWI4MTIyMDE=

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClZJg5IP...d=MWI4MTIyMDE=

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