Ammo shortage not expected to end any time soon (shotgun, best, Winchester)

[TRex2]

Originally Posted by TRex2

I have never heard of anyone hunting turkey with a 410, but I assume you mean #6 shot.

Originally Posted by TaxPhd

Most .410 turkey loads are loaded with tungsten #9 shot. $8-10 per round is a normal price.

Cool: I just learned something new.

[M3 Mitch]

Originally Posted by TaxPhd

Most .410 turkey loads are loaded with tungsten #9 shot. $8-10 per round is a normal price.

These are new in the last few years. Tungsten is about as hard as steel maybe harder, I would not shoot these in a valuable gun like my M42. Apparently the wad material is special and protects against the shot contacting the barrel, but, anyway, just no.

If you have something like an 870 where a new barrel is cheap and easy to source, easy to change out (no tools needed IIRC) you might give these a try.

Apparently these will take a turkey out to 75 yards, maybe more. With a .410.

Not a lot has changed in the shotgun world since about 1970, say, when plastic wads and hulls became about universal. Well and non-toxic shot, which either performs less well than lead, or performs about the same but costs a lot more.

But these tungsten shells are something new.

[reubenray]

I found a box of 20 gauge Federal #3 Buckshot at my local Walmart for $10/5 shells. I looked at two gun shows with no luck.

[TRex2]

Originally Posted by reubenray

I found a box of 20 gauge Federal #3 Buckshot at my local Walmart for $10/5 shells. I looked at two gun shows with no luck.

I guess it depends on how low you are on ammo, but I would be reluctant to buy them at $2 a round. Not unheard of, but a bit high.

Are they Hornady or Fiocci?
Or some other brand.

[reubenray]

Originally Posted by TRex2

I guess it depends on how low you are on ammo, but I would be reluctant to buy them at $2 a round. Not unheard of, but a bit high.

Are they Hornady or Fiocci?
Or some other brand.

These were for self defense and they would be better than bird shot. I have been looking for a while with no luck.

[TRex2]

Originally Posted by reubenray

These were for self defense and they would be better than bird shot. I have been looking for a while with no luck.

From what I have seen in gelatin tests, #3 or #4 Buck would be my top choice for self defense, for any 12, 16, or 20 gauge shotgun.

[Threerun]

My real world experience on deer I would prefer 3" double ought buck in my 12ga.

[TRex2]

Originally Posted by Threerun

My real world experience on deer I would prefer 3" double ought buck in my 12ga.

Deer loads are different than defense loads.

My father ran nothing but slugs, when hunting deer.
(The deer in his area were bigger than average, due to many grain fields, and no competing species, in the area.)

[reubenray]

Originally Posted by TRex2

Deer loads are different than defense loads.

My father ran nothing but slugs, when hunting deer.
(The deer in his area were bigger than average, due to many grain fields, and no competing species, in the area.)

The last deer I killed was with a slug from a 12 gauge. I had to use my FIL's gun being my Remington 30-06 was stolen.

[Threerun]

Originally Posted by TRex2

Deer loads are different than defense loads.

Not in my house they’re not.