Restaurants Businesses Closing (Boston: how much, home, neighborhoods)

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by msRB311

You're missing my point. A restaurant owner should also be able to make a living for him/herself. That seems to be nearly impossible now with the combined increases of staff needs, rising food costs and rent. Wake up and try to comprehend. It's also a reason restaurants are indeed closing.

It's ALWAYS been a reason why businesses have closed. The restaurant business has always had high failure rates.

While there are these restaurants going out of business, there are still plenty opening as well. I've been to several that have opened up in the past month or so within walking distance of me.

[robr2]

Originally Posted by msRB311

You're missing my point. A restaurant owner should also be able to make a living for him/herself. That seems to be nearly impossible now with the combined increases of staff needs, rising food costs and rent. Wake up and try to comprehend. It's also a reason restaurants are indeed closing.

The issues you brought up have always been present in the restaurant industry. Today the numbers are simply larger and many restaurants have no issue raising their prices to turn a profit.

Yes, it's harder today to start a restaurant. It takes lots of money and lots of hard work. My neighbor owns a coffee shop in town and they are having those issues. Guess what - she and her son are at the shop everyday at 5 AM and work hard along with their staff to keep up a very strong business. They raise prices and we keep coming there. Many others simply don't want to deal with it anymore and simply close their restaurants.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by robr2

The issues you brought up have always been present in the restaurant industry. Today the numbers are simply larger and many restaurants have no issue raising their prices to turn a profit.

Yes, it's harder today to start a restaurant. It takes lots of money and lots of hard work. My neighbor owns a coffee shop in town and they are having those issues. Guess what - she and her son are at the shop everyday at 5 AM and work hard along with their staff to keep up a very strong business. They raise prices and we keep coming there. Many others simply don't want to deal with it anymore and simply close their restaurants.

Right. And you have to be good enough to get people returning with the higher prices.

A fair chunk (not all) of the places closing can't make it work as what they were selling at X just fine, won't sell enough at 1.5X to retain their customer base. Makes perfect sense.

[WestieWhitie]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Hey, those workers are probabably uneducated. They should be thankful for any job despite how crappy it is!

Of course not amigo, they all deserve at least a $130,000 paycheck, at least six weeks of paid vacation and free health insurance with no deductible because that’s what’s fair(tm)

[msRB311]

Maybe there have just been too many food establishments? It amazes me how Dunkin Donuts, starbucks and McDonalds have many many employees or at least the ones near me do. Are they paid well?

Then the mom and pop run places can't find help. It's just weird unless the people at the above mentioned places get paid well...but they don't really get tipped.

[mdovell]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Maybe there have just been too many food establishments? It amazes me how Dunkin Donuts, starbucks and McDonalds have many many employees or at least the ones near me do. Are they paid well?

Then the mom and pop run places can't find help. It's just weird unless the people at the above mentioned places get paid well...but they don't really get tipped.

Thats what I've been saying for years. There's high turnover rates and frankly outside of Starbucks it's mostly younger people. I think it was more on population growth supplying a steady stream

[r_p]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Maybe there have just been too many food establishments? It amazes me how Dunkin Donuts, starbucks and McDonalds have many many employees or at least the ones near me do. Are they paid well?

They have to pay minimum wage and there's not much wiggle room when it comes to rents/utilities etc. The only place most restaurants can cut corners is the food quality. It really is the cheapest/bottom of the barrel factory farmed stuff because our society is desensitized to suffering of animals.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by r_p

They have to pay minimum wage and there's not much wiggle room when it comes to rents/utilities etc. The only place most restaurants can cut corners is the food quality. It really is the cheapest/bottom of the barrel factory farmed stuff because our society is desensitized to suffering of animals.

Give it a rest.

[msRB311]

People don't seem to care that restaurants will basically be owned by corporations in the future.

[massnative71]

I think we're just slowly returning to where restaurants are a luxury. Gone will be the days where an average Joe can eat out at least one meal a day. Whatever. Society can afford to go on a restaurant diet.



As for the big chains able to retain staff while the mom and pops struggle to hire, a big part is probably the higher minimum wage that places like McD's and DD can absorb far more easy than the corner breakfast and lunch place. Just be sure not to be stingy when tipping the remaining local places, if you want to keep them around.