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Until laws are changed it is indeed a criminal issue that the parents can be held liable. Additionally it is a social problem, and potentially a medical problem, most definitely a parenting problem.
Keep kids busy enough, be it with homework, activities, and/or a job, and they will not have either the time or energy to get into trouble be it abusing drugs or otherwise.
I was on the straight and narrow because I had respect born of fear of the consequences my parents would bring down upon me if I ever so much as dared try an illegal substance while living under their roof. I was almost never left alone or to my own accord. Bored kids find trouble, or as it used to be phrased, idle hands are the devil's workshop.
Jackbooted thuggary, no; good parenting, yes.
We were born into similar households, but obviously don't have the same approach to things, except maybe where it concerns gun ownership. I didn't have my first drink until I was 21 and my parents made me wear a buzz cut until I was 16, but as you say, their house, their rules, and I respected that then as I do now. I worked a part time job since I was 14, so I never had either the time or inclination to get into trouble.
Kids using drugs CAN be a criminal issue, that's true certainly, but in this instance, ONLY if you make it so. Once you do that, there is no going back. In my view, the first thing any parent would want to do is to help, not punish, and certainly not punish so severely that the child would have a juvenile record. But that's me.
My father would have more likely done something that would be considered child abuse today. I have permanet scars from what were really minor infractions.
I think the majority here believe that the dog routine is more of a last ditch effort, not the first course of action, if used at all. Most of the other parents here seem to think counseling should be more the first option.
I say leave your dog home and let him enjoy the squirrels and your company, as mine does.
My high school boyfriends dad was a narc officer and his k9 partner lived in their backyard. All the time he would run the dog through the house searching for anything the boys may have brought home. Didnt stop the boys from smoking pot, they just didnt keep them in the house. And it created a level of distrust between father and son and son and father. Not a good idea in my opinion.
You have kids who are doing drugs and hiding it...and you think the drug sniffing dog is what created a level of distrust?
There were some good role models in that "village"
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Originally Posted by Pitt Chick
Lucky?
Luck had NOTHING to do with it.
Raising good, happy, law-abiding citizens took time & hard work, and plenty of it.... by both my husband and I, and the rest of our "village" (Sorry, that is probobly one of those catch phrases you seem to dislike, but it applies here!).
And sometimes simple is best....
I really don't think things changed so much in the past few years.....
While I've heard it's a gift to be simple, and I want you to enjoy your gift, simple and raising children don't seem to go together, but if it worked for you, good. I still think you were lucky. Yeah. you're right, I'm not one of those "village" people.
Maybe not where you live, but things have changed a lot in the last decade, ever hear of bath salts as a drug of choice?, but I wouldn't expect you to know that because 1) you're not inclined to research, you are more of a feelings person, and 2) you're out of the child raising business, so the interest is not there.
I saw something on the news tonight that I found disturbing.
The story featured a company that brings out a German Shepard that will go through your home and your cars if you suspect your child is using drugs and has drugs in the house.
It didn't say what happens if drugs our found. Are the police called?
Or if no drugs are found I would think you have really damaged your relationship with your child.
Seemed very extreme to me.
Unfortunately, sometimes parents have to go to extreme measures in order to get their point across. If someone is going to hire a dog handler, to sniff out drugs, like another poster said, there's already a HUGE problem with trust. How is this any different than the random searches at school, with drug dogs?
Maybe not where you live, but things have changed a lot in the last decade, ever hear of bath salts as a drug of choice?, but I wouldn't expect you to know that because 1) you're not inclined to research, you are more of a feelings person, and 2) you're out of the child raising business, so the interest is not there.
No need for personal attacks (your two conclusions are ludicrous and quite laughable BTW!)... but yes, I have heard of bath salts.
And I am done justifying my successful parenting to you.
We were born into similar households, but obviously don't have the same approach to things, except maybe where it concerns gun ownership. I didn't have my first drink until I was 21 and my parents made me wear a buzz cut until I was 16, but as you say, their house, their rules, and I respected that then as I do now. I worked a part time job since I was 14, so I never had either the time or inclination to get into trouble.
Kids using drugs CAN be a criminal issue, that's true certainly, but in this instance, ONLY if you make it so. Once you do that, there is no going back. In my view, the first thing any parent would want to do is to help, not punish, and certainly not punish so severely that the child would have a juvenile record. But that's me.
My father would have more likely done something that would be considered child abuse today. I have permanet scars from what were really minor infractions.
I think the majority here believe that the dog routine is more of a last ditch effort, not the first course of action, if used at all. Most of the other parents here seem to think counseling should be more the first option.
I say leave your dog home and let him enjoy the squirrels and your company, as mine does.
Ah.....so what would be the second or third offense then. It's not like I'm disagreeing with you on that "first offense" statement BTW. Something tells me that not too many folks would use a drug sniffing dog or call the law on thier children for first offenses. When it's an ongoing battle...what then?
Also, if you are a parent who has trouble finding a source for weed and you suspect your kid has some but don't want your kid to know you smoke, it's a good way to get some.
^^^ Just wanna say that it's amazing how many reps I got for that post, hehehe. No one leaves their name, though.
^^^ Just wanna say that it's amazing how many reps I got for that post, hehehe. No one leaves their name, though.
Now THAT's funny! Thanks for the chuckle!
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There were some good role models in that "village"
