Covid virus in phoenix (Maricopa: salaries, stadiums, tickets)

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Bates419

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/15/healt...ine/index.html

I can't wait to see how he'll say that he never touted it at all.

[Sno0909]

Originally Posted by Burning Madolf

But you get to drive, right?

Absolutely. Lol. I'm just advocating for remote working to be more commonplace after this is said and done. I like less traffic and I definitely notice a difference in our air quality. That's about as far left as I'll go when it comes to environmentalism.

[belgirl]

Originally Posted by Bates419

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/15/healt...ine/index.html

And I could list a dozen non-Fox News sources that says it helps.

[Bates419]

Originally Posted by belgirl

And I could list a dozen non-Fox News sources that says it helps.

Can you find even one with a study vs anecdotal evidence??

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...699v1.full.pdf

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

Your point has to be accurate for a lot of people. I know that companies (plural) that install home networking products are currently going gangbusters. This can only mean that home offices all across the country needed some big upgrades. Around PHX we are in great shape (internet bandwidth options). But in my rural northern MN home, I have DSL and I am 2.5 miles from the hub. I can only 5/0.15 Mbps. Yes, 0.15 upload. Not conducive to video conferencing. Higher speeds are supposedly on their way because the State has offered grants to carriers. It cannot come fast enough.

Even in cities like Phoenix where internet bandwidth is usually top notch in comparison to many other areas, there still are a lot of improvements that need to be made. In my department, we did video conferencing with some of the employees who work from home, and the screens kept freezing & the audio was choppy to the point where it became nearly inaudible. A lot of these smart phones & laptops that everybody seems to love certainly aren't very "smart" when it comes to working professionally. The audio has about the same quality as those cassette tape recorders from about 40 years ago.

Also, are companies really willing to spend extra money to equip employees with the hardware & software required for working remotely ... especially when many companies already put some serious money into maintaining, revamping, and upgrading their own office based systems? One of the results of more people working remotely is the unused office space & possible increase in vacancy rates. In my own experience, working from home doesn't have anywhere near the same amount of compatibility or professionalism as being at a physical office location. But to each his own.

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

Valley, we don't always agree. But you have a right to be suspicious about how and why a $1,200 stimulus check is coming. When my wife and I get our check, I'm tossing it in the bank. My daughter who we taught to be a saver will do the same thing. How is that helping the economy NOW and millions more like us?? I might use it in my future nursing home in 15 years or add it to our kid's inheritance.

I'll probably put much of mine in a good investment, and I'm considering donating some of it to possibly the Red Cross. I hope you aren't serious about saving for a nursing home. My sister and I are the caregivers for our parents, so they don't have to contend with the high costs, as well as the neglect, abuse, and overall unsanitary conditions of many of these so called nursing homes. Hopefully your kids will be helpful in your elder years when you need more care.

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

But this round of checks is going to look a little different.
"President Trump’s name will appear on the economic stimulus checks that will be mailed to millions of Americans beginning next month, the Treasury Department confirmed on Tuesday.

The decision to have Mr. Trump’s name appear on the checks, which is a break in protocol, was made by the Treasury Department after Mr. Trump suggested the idea to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, according to a Treasury official. The president’s name will appear on the “memo” section of the check because Mr. Trump is not legally authorized to sign such disbursements."

Even though I agree with Trump in principle on many things, I'm not too fond of him for for different reasons. Lately, it's his inconsistency. In his State of the Union, he rightfully declared that America will never be a socialist country, but then he turned around and signed a $2 trillion spending package to add to the trillions in existing debt, which amounts to pure socialism. Then again, it's not just him. I'm fed up with BOTH parties and their frivolous spending + their never ending control over our personal lives. They use every crisis they can as an excuse to chip away at our freedoms.

Originally Posted by Sno0909

Absolutely. Lol. I'm just advocating for remote working to be more commonplace after this is said and done. I like less traffic and I definitely notice a difference in our air quality. That's about as far left as I'll go when it comes to environmentalism.

For me, that's about the only thing which I benefit from working remotely: not having to deal with traffic. Working from home might work well for some people, but it's not for everybody. I already tried it, and didn't care for it. I hate being confined to staying at home. I much prefer being out & about, working in an office where the technology is usually more up to date, and I also prefer being around other working professionals. Isolation isn't exactly healthy, productive, or normal for that matter.

[Elna Rae]

Dr. Fauci’s prognostications:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fra...out-fans-fauci

This would certainly be a great way for Americans to save money; hopefully going on indefinitely. Pro sports will NEVER be the same.

Hallelujah.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

Even in cities like Phoenix where internet bandwidth is usually top notch in comparison to many other areas, there still are a lot of improvements that need to be made. In my department, we did video conferencing with some of the employees who work from home, and the screens kept freezing & the audio was choppy to the point where it became nearly inaudible. A lot of these smart phones & laptops that everybody seems to love certainly aren't very "smart" when it comes to working professionally. The audio has about the same quality as those cassette tape recorders from about 40 years ago.

Excluding bandwidth (in which your colleagues could have picked the 5 Mbps COX plan), the caliber of networking equipment inside of most home (>50%) has some major shortfalls. In my industry, it causes plenty of tech support problems. Hence, the surge I was mention that the networking contractors business. Like the quality enhancements of the routers (mine cost $500) and switches. There are a lot of IP devices attached to peoples networks. In my home, my sprinklers, home automation boxes, my garage door opener, my Fridge, streaming devices, etc. The weakest link has a way of showing up.

Originally Posted by Valley Native

Also, are companies really willing to spend extra money to equip employees with the hardware & software required for working remotely ...

Probably not. I bet a lot of companies expect the employee to pony up for the extra $$'s. Though I suspect higher burden rate employees might get some reimbursement. Still, I think there is a paradigm shift going on as we speak. Call me a fortune teller but I predict the politicians in charge will be asking for anyone that can work from home to stay at home. Part green, part social distancing. That's not changing for at least a year.

Originally Posted by Valley Native

I'll probably put much of mine in a good investment, and I'm considering donating some of it to possibly the Red Cross.

Good point with the extra $$'s or donating it to a worthy cause like the Red Cross.
We decided to pay our cleaner(s) as if they were still working at our place because it's the right thing to do. Small stuff like that. But this "free" money wasn't the motivator.

Originally Posted by Valley Native

I hope you aren't serious about saving for a nursing home. My sister and I are the caregivers for our parents, so they don't have to contend with the high costs, as well as the neglect, abuse, and overall unsanitary conditions of many of these so called nursing homes. Hopefully your kids will be helpful in your elder years when you need more care.

I am serious about the nursing home. The level of care is massively different if you have the resources. Maybe it's hiring someone for $80K to live in your home or?? If I wasn't continuing to save for that topic, I could be modestly retired now and living off of savings. It's also why I haven't moved to Scottsdale or why I don't splurge on a lot of material topics. And depending on if, how, and when you need extra care, it may never be enough.

We have helped out our kids a lot. Tuition and living expenses for 12 years of college gets expensive (some of it was an interest-free loan that our daughter has a year left to pay). It's been my pleasure and I am glad I've been lucky enough to ease their normally massive debt load from their advanced degrees. There were no strings attached other than them kicking butt in life.

And if they see that we needed some help, I'm 100% sure they would be there for us. Still, they have their own (eventually) families. I'm not their obligation just as I don't feel the need to help out my MIL, SIL, brothers, etc beyond some verbal help (which they don't take: people are where they are for a reason). There would be no chance in Hell I would have my MIL live with us. Now if my wife was single, she absolutely would have here move in. I'm smart enough to realize that if one of us lived in our kid's home, it would degrade the other people's lives. So it's my job to be self-sufficient as best as I can versus being a burden. If that means we have to partially be put out to pasture, that's how it goes. My obligation were my wedding vows. Not to my extended family. Still, I fully expect we get medical advice from our kids for the rest of my life. We are a close family (the 4 of us). YMMV and that's right for you. So I am not judging. It's admirable.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by Elna Rae

Dr. Fauci’s prognostications:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fra...out-fans-fauci

This would certainly be a great way for Americans to save money; hopefully going on indefinitely. Pro sports will NEVER be the same.

Hallelujah.

I don't give a rats-arse about pro sports. Well, other than I do like to watch highlights where world-class athletes make amazing plays. I LOVED attending our kid's sports events. It was the highlight of my week. But I knew the players.

It's obvious you wanted to ruffle some feathers. But "Hallelujah"? Why?

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by Elna Rae

Dr. Fauci’s prognostications:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fra...out-fans-fauci

This would certainly be a great way for Americans to save money; hopefully going on indefinitely. Pro sports will NEVER be the same.

Hallelujah.

Put them on TV with a fan noise track. Only the wealthy can afford in person attendance for more than a couple games per year in crappy nose bleed seats anyway.

[Elna Rae]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

I don't give a rats-arse about pro sports. Well, other than I do like to watch highlights where world-class athletes make amazing plays. I LOVED attending our kid's sports events. It was the highlight of my week. But I knew the players.

It's obvious you wanted to ruffle some feathers. But "Hallelujah"? Why?

You're kidding, right?

Sports/athlete idolatry is a huge problem in our culture. There's obviously benefit in being a participant but the spectating is out of control; many (most?) are obsessed fanatics. Just ask all the divorced spouses who were victims of it.

The effects of this plague will be cross-cultural and have profound consequences. Sporting events, concerts, even going to a movie will change.