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Old 11-13-2010, 09:55 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Can you provide research on this? This is an olllllddd myth.

Sigh...


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Scroll down to the videos.

 
Old 11-13-2010, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Terra firma
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Pure lies.

What kinds of black neighborhood are you talking about?

In any ROUGH black neighborhood, with black or white walking alone would be dangerous.

But why would you want to walk alone in a black neighborhood at nighttime?

Or, I as a black person could walk in a racist white small town and be in danger myself.
No lies here. As a teen I used to make forays into Como (a black part of Fort Worth, TX) to visit a friend of mine and their was trouble every time, but when he came to visit me their was never a problem.
 
Old 11-13-2010, 10:00 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Couple of problems with your post. First, it IS more dangerous for a white person alone in a rough black area at night than for a black person. The reason is simple and obvious, as there is the added element of racism from some thugs that would happen to be black (notice, i didn't say all blacks, or that all blacks are thugs). I've been beaten up for being white in a mixed area. Also, as for your question as to why a white person would want to walk alone in said neighborhood, your question alone implies guilt. That, my friend, is blaming the victim. In America, citizens have a legal AND moral right to walk wherever want to in a public neighborhood. To answer it further, how about for any reason that a black person would want to be there? Here in NYC, the answer could be for a million reasons.

Lastly, yes, you could be in danger in a racist white town, just as I am in Bed-Stuy, or the South Bronx, or Harlem, or Newark, or...take your pick.

The bolded is a lie. If they see a white person around they'll assume they're buying drugs. And where are your stats to back up your claim? Last time I checked I have a 15 times greater chance of getting shot in my city than white people do, especially in poor areas. The dynamics also vary greatly from region to region... obviously the dynamics in Oakland CA (my city) are not going to be the same as the dynamics in Jackson MI or even Washington DC.


And I'm not understanding the point or that last part. Do you really think there aren't an abundance of racist white towns? The city right next to me (San Leandro) was called by Time Magazine the most racist city in the country back in the 80's, and that's in the bay area. Racism in America is everywhere... the south certainly doesn't have a monopoly on it. There's PLENTY or racism to go around in upstate NY.
 
Old 11-13-2010, 10:07 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Hello Mr. Flava. I've been following your posts and I noticed something. You write very well; very clear and concise with excellent spelling and punctuation. So I wonder, how can someone of your obvious high intelligence actually believe that you are being held down by "the man?"

And lets talk about real racism for a moment; visceral racism that you can actually feel. A guy like you could walk down a street in any white neighborhood at night and the worst thing that would happen to you is maybe a cop would stop and ask you what you are doing, but more than likely nothing would happen at all.

For me on the other hand, walking through a black neighborhood alone at night would practically be suicide. If I was lucky I might just get my azz kicked, but the chances of making it through unscathed are pretty low.

How do you reconcile these two realities? Who has more at stake? Who is more racist?

No, I could not. Why do you think black people avoid poor predominantly/exclusively white areas like the plague? Where do you think a lot of the overtly anti-black drivel comes from?

And you are incorrect on the other count as well. If you walk through a POOR neighborhood in general, you are taking a risk. While you might be safer walking through a poor white neighborhood than in a poor black neighborhood, that's not remotely close to a guarantee. If you're walking through a middle class or upper class neighborhood do you seriously expect to get called a h****y or get beat up? Seriously? You realize that you project outwardly what you think whether you want to or not... if anything, you're in more danger because you hold these beliefs.
 
Old 11-13-2010, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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No lies here. As a teen I used to make forays into Como (a black part of Fort Worth, TX) to visit a friend of mine and their was trouble every time, but when he came to visit me their was never a problem.
Just because you had a bad experience in a black part of town does not mean that every or most white people have trouble in black neighborhoods.
 
Old 11-13-2010, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Reality
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The bolded is a lie. If they see a white person around they'll assume they're buying drugs. And where are your stats to back up your claim? Last time I checked I have a 15 times greater chance of getting shot in my city than white people do, especially in poor areas. The dynamics also vary greatly from region to region... obviously the dynamics in Oakland CA (my city) are not going to be the same as the dynamics in Jackson MI or even Washington DC.
Blacks in Oakland burn down entire blocks of their own city when certain sports teams lose or win, when cops aren't prosecuted or other important times like when there's a full moon on a Friday night. Did you ever stop to thing that maybe blacks are 15 times more likely to get shot in Oakland because white people know there's a 100% chance they'll get shot at if they're seen in Oakland so they try to stay away from Oakland.
 
Old 11-13-2010, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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No one invented skin color racism other than humans. There have always been racists based on skin color. Racism itself defines the term "skin color racism". I dont think your color professors have told you the whole history of the world.
No there have not.

Skin color racism began when the slavery in Africa started.

Whites started skin color racism.

Before the slave trade in Africa, no one judeged another based on their skin color.

Btw, most of my professors have been WHITE.
 
Old 11-13-2010, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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The bolded is a lie. If they see a white person around they'll assume they're buying drugs. And where are your stats to back up your claim? Last time I checked I have a 15 times greater chance of getting shot in my city than white people do, especially in poor areas. The dynamics also vary greatly from region to region... obviously the dynamics in Oakland CA (my city) are not going to be the same as the dynamics in Jackson MI or even Washington DC.


And I'm not understanding the point or that last part. Do you really think there aren't an abundance of racist white towns? The city right next to me (San Leandro) was called by Time Magazine the most racist city in the country back in the 80's, and that's in the bay area. Racism in America is everywhere... the south certainly doesn't have a monopoly on it. There's PLENTY or racism to go around in upstate NY.
True.

There are still white "Sun Down" towns in America and you'd be stupid if you are black and still go there after it gets dark.
 
Old 11-13-2010, 10:16 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Blacks in Oakland burn down entire blocks of their own city when certain sports teams lose or win, when cops aren't prosecuted or other important times like when there's a full moon on a Friday night. Did you ever stop to thing that maybe blacks are 15 times more likely to get shot in Oakland because white people know there's a 100% chance they'll get shot at if they're seen in Oakland so they try to stay away from Oakland.
Great job at enlightening me about a city you've more than likely never set foot in. I guess that's why Oakland's a majority white city. Because none of them would ever set foot in it... oh please. Don't add your pure ignorance of Oakland into the mix.


The biggest threat I face in Oakland are the cops... if you're not a gang member and don't associate with them you have VERY little chance of getting caught up in it. The cops, on the other hand, are something I can't avoid that easily. They just shot another unarmed black man a couple of days ago eight times at a barbershop near Mills College because he ran. Do we honestly think this guy would've gotten shot if he was white?


EDIT: and ROFL... I think you're thinking of LA with that "burning down entire blocks" comment. Speaking of the oakland riots, who were the vast majority of the rioters back when Oscar Grant got killed by the BART police? They weren't black and they weren't from Oakland. Oakland is now suing these people for destroying property that they had no reason to destroy. Most of these rioters are college anarchists (hello UC Berkeley) and college punks in general who think that they're able to get away with it because it's Oakland.
 
Old 11-13-2010, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Please refer back to page 25 of this thread. Scroll down until you get to the videos.


//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ccused-25.html
I don't have time to watch the videos. Do you realize you posted like two hours of video? If you can give a synopsis, that would be great. From everything I've read in my own research, nothing has been proven. Even if it was 100% true as you're presenting it, the people doing crack did so on their own free will and have no one to blame but themselves. Another excuse. It never ends.
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