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Why are we allowing the federal government to create a much larger, more comprehensive healthcare program,....when they just admitted that Medicare is out of control and will be bankrupt in a decade or so? If the government can't administer a viable healthcare program covering such a small percentage of the population, what makes you people think that the fed can handle successfully administer one for ALL the citizens?
The government is the ONLY entity that can create something that is an abject failure and then step right back up to the plate and create another program designed to "fix" the one they screwed up in the first place,....all the while using YOUR money without any accountability.
Medicare law grew from less than 50 pages at inception to over 100,000 pages today,...and that's just for a PORTION of our population. Just wait to you see the bureaucratic nightmare when the 1000 or so pages of Obamacare grows to full bloom.
If any of you think this is not government takeover of the healthcare industry, then there is some land.................
Why are we allowing the federal government to create a much larger, more comprehensive healthcare program,....when they just admitted that Medicare is out of control and will be bankrupt in a decade or so? If the government can't administer a viable healthcare program covering such a small percentage of the population, what makes you people think that the fed can handle successfully administer one for ALL the citizens?
The government is the ONLY entity that can create something that is an abject failure and then step right back up to the plate and create another program designed to "fix" the one they screwed up in the first place,....all the while using YOUR money without any accountability.
Medicare law grew from less than 50 pages at inception to over 100,000 pages today,...and that's just for a PORTION of our population. Just wait to you see the bureaucratic nightmare when the 1000 or so pages of Obamacare grows to full bloom.
If any of you think this is not government takeover of the healthcare industry, then there is some land.................
Medicare covers the oldest, sickest and most expensive portion of the population and does a pretty good job of it. If you think private insurance is expensive now imagine if you were paying for the over 65 group.
Medicare covers the oldest, sickest and most expensive portion of the population and does a pretty good job of it. If you think private insurance is expensive now imagine if you were paying for the over 65 group.
I suppose that is your opinion,....IF you are over 65, or are on Medicare.
If not on Medicare, then you probably haven't had a problem finding a doctor who takes new patients with Medicare.
LMAO. If you don't think your health is worth the cost of insurance, then why do you think I should pay for your health? Are you saying your health is only worth the cost if other people pay for it?
I have insurance, so kill all that.
And we all pay for each others health insurance, even if we have insurance. That's why we refer to it as an "insurance pool."
If you get sick, and run up a half million dollars in health insurance costs, do you expect me to believe that you actually paid that much in? Obviously, you surely didn't.
Why are we allowing the federal government to create a much larger, more comprehensive healthcare program,....when they just admitted that Medicare is out of control and will be bankrupt in a decade or so?
That estimate has nothing to do with Medicare in particular, it has to do with the fact that medical costs are rising out of control. That means that private insurance will be unaffordable in 10 yrs too.
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Here’s the raw fact, from the National Health Expenditure data: since 1970 Medicare costs per beneficiary have risen at an annual rate of 8.8% -- but insurance premiums have risen at an annual rate of 9.9%. The rise in Medicare costs is just part of the overall rise in health care spending. And in fact Medicare spending has lagged private spending: if insurance premiums had risen "only" as much as Medicare spending, they’d be 1/3 lower than they are.
Medicare covers the oldest, sickest and most expensive portion of the population and does a pretty good job of it. If you think private insurance is expensive now imagine if you were paying for the over 65 group.
This is soooo true! The older generation today simply does not have the knowledge of all the latest in medication and procedures that can extend life. Please note that I said "extend", not "save" life.
Nature has said that we all will die. It is not true that we will all die suddenly and peacefully.
When the elderly reaches a point that more than a few months is most unlikly, the kindest and most respectiful thing to do is to let Nature take over.
This battle until Grandma draws her last breath just for a few days or months of more agony is not a nice thing to do. But families seem so relutant to step forward and say that enough is enough. And so the doctors and hospitals have no choice but to carry on, extending life until Nature cannot be put off any longer. They cannot say it's time. It's up to the families.
Be sure that YOU know what YOU want before you talk about what you think should be done for the elderly. Would YOU really want YOUR life extended as it can be today.
What do YOU want done? How much additional pain would YOU want? And for how long? A few weeks? Maybe a few months? Would YOU want to be confined to a bed with your family having to clean your behind and tote your bedpan?
Think about all of this habit of putting off death that's bothering so many. Life is not extended. Death is delayed.
This is soooo true! The older generation today simply does not have the knowledge of all the latest in medication and procedures that can extend life. Please note that I said "extend", not "save" life.
Nature has said that we all will die. It is not true that we will all die suddenly and peacefully.
When the elderly reaches a point that more than a few months is most unlikly, the kindest and most respectiful thing to do is to let Nature take over.
This battle until Grandma draws her last breath just for a few days or months of more agony is not a nice thing to do. But families seem so relutant to step forward and say that enough is enough. And so the doctors and hospitals have no choice but to carry on, extending life until Nature cannot be put off any longer. They cannot say it's time. It's up to the families.
Be sure that YOU know what YOU want before you talk about what you think should be done for the elderly. Would YOU really want YOUR life extended as it can be today.
What do YOU want done? How much additional pain would YOU want? And for how long? A few weeks? Maybe a few months? Would YOU want to be confined to a bed with your family having to clean your behind and tote your bedpan?
Think about all of this habit of putting off death that's bothering so many. Life is not extended. Death is delayed.
Medicare is not just about prolonging life needlessly as you have stated above. Medicare is about providing health care to people over 65, many of whom are nowehre near the state you describe above. And if you're going to trot out the statistic that Medicare pays out more in the last "X" months of a person's life than it does in the time leading up to that, so what? That just means people are sicker in the last few months of their life.
Most people would like to just up and die after living life to the hilt, but it doesn't always happen that way. In fact, about the only time that happens is when you get killed in an accident. Letting "nature take its course" sometimes involves some of the above.
The hard reality is the insurance company simply don't want to cover old people because old people are money losers since they get sick so much. That's why there is medicare; old people simply couldn't get health insurance at a reasonable rate. The average income of those over 65 is just $14,000 per year so it is absurd to think they can afford $500-$1000 per month for health insurance even with a partial subsidy.
The hard reality is the insurance company simply don't want to cover old people because old people are money losers since they get sick so much. That's why there is medicare; old people simply couldn't get health insurance at a reasonable rate. The average income of those over 65 is just $14,000 per year so it is absurd to think they can afford $500-$1000 per month for health insurance even with a partial subsidy.
So how does one over 65 afford transportation, food, and shelter?
They PLAN FOR IT!!
Same holds true for providing for healthcare in ones latter years.
Government interference in the healthcare industry has driven costs through the roof. Price-fixing by the government has forced hospitals and physicians to overchare private pay insurance companies to make up for losses suffered by low reimbursements by the government. That, in turn, has caused rates to spiral and costs of care to skyrocket. It's so convenient for liberals to blame "bad 'ol insurance companies" instead of the freakin' government who caused the problem in the first place.
Medicare is to be cut 30% in the next few years. Obamacare is based upon the formula used by the medicare system,...so guess who may not have access to doctors when Obozo gets his plan implemented?
Yep,...that would be all you who screamed for healthcare paid for by someone else.
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