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Old 11-09-2012, 07:51 PM
 
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Will you compare it to mitt's plan? Oh thats right he did not tell you what it was because he LOST!
Who gives a GD flip about what Mitt's plan was. What you have is Obama's plan now and deflecting from that or trying to act like that's not the issue at hand is freaking disingenuous.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:52 PM
 
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Anyone who thinks Obama is in anyway responsible
Nooooo.. Obama is not responsible for ANYTHING. Get that, nothing, nada. he is our savior, we should bow to his image on TV, get pics and put them on the wall and thank him for our being, thank him that you can spread your legs anytime without consequences because you can get a handy dandy abortion anytime after that. Thank him for your free $9 pill.

Obama is god.

Don't "you people" get tired of defending your god?
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:02 PM
 
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My company has been struggling for the past 3 years. They're trying to stay afloat as long as they can, but we all know we can't hang on for another 4 or 5 years.

Gosh, where is our bailout? Guess we need to unionize.
Good luck with that one, once Obama passes CIR/Amnesty and floods the workforce with soon to be Ex-Illegal Aliens working for far less, guess who they'll turn to ?
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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You know what, if you conservatives were smart you'd stop your bitching and figure out a way to get rich either because of or despite Obamacare.

Somebody will.

Guess what you will still be doing while they are getting rich?
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:16 PM
 
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You know what, if you conservatives were smart you'd stop your bitching and figure out a way to get rich either because of or despite Obamacare.

Somebody will.

Guess what you will still be doing while they are getting rich?
and if you were smart you would get your hand out of everyone else gd pocket. If you were smart you would realize when you are being played.

If you were smart you would realize that if you are not rich by now, after Obama you never will be. Liz and Obama got theirs so screw everyone else who even wants to try.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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I'm starting to believe you don't read your own material. They also fell short of their sales goal, lost stock value, and need to make layoffs anyway to compensate--not to mention 1300 of the 1400 jobs they are cutting are jobs overseas.

So, the layoffs were already happening regardless of the Obamacare mandates and taxes.

Perhaps the biggest issue is their consideration of moving jobs over to China. Nobody likes China.



It's official: Anyone who lays off a worker from November 6th 2012 to November 8th 2016 is directly doing so because Obamacare is destroying the world.
They needed to make layoffs anyway, so no big deal if they make even more layoffs?
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:25 PM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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This company didn't specifically announce layoffs, but said they won't build more, won't hire more and will have to cut either employees or their hours.

Zane Tankel, Applebee's Franchisee, Says He Won't Hire Because Of Obamacare

"An Applebee's New York area franchisee is the latest CEO to go public threatening drastic plans to avoid costs associated with the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare.

"We've calculated it will [cost] some millions of dollars across our system. So what does that say -- that says we won't build more restaurants. We won't hire more people," Zane Tankel, chairman and CEO of Apple-Metro, told Fox Business Network on Thursday."

"Tankel also felt he had little choice in what he called a "fragile environment" but to cut employees or their hours: "In this environment, you can't raise prices, particularly in our space. It's not possible. Efficiencies, hopefully we got all of our efficiencies. We've just faced three terrible years in the environment and the economy. We've been enforcing and putting more and more in every year. So then it's cut back on overhead."
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:31 PM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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We already knew about these cuts because of Obamacare:

Darden Restaurants, owner of Olive Garden and Red Lobster, said that it would increase the number of part-time workers to skirt the law, while Jimmy John Liautaud, founder of Jimmy John's Gourmet Sandwiches chain, also recently told Fox Business News that he is considering cutting workers' hours. [1]
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:33 PM
 
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and if you were smart you would get your hand out of everyone else gd pocket. If you were smart you would realize when you are being played.

If you were smart you would realize that if you are not rich by now, after Obama you never will be. Liz and Obama got theirs so screw everyone else who even wants to try.
Sorry, but last I checked, businesses knew this was coming.

Only the strong survive.

And using an industry that everyone knows is a part-time industry? Really?
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:00 PM
 
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Default same arguments they've been using since 1935

We have heard all these same arguments before levied against social secruity and medicare. What a surpirse, they were all wrong.

Here is the whole article
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/19/opinion/19kristof.html

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"Yet this year those same accusations are being recycled in an attempt to discredit the health reform proposals now before Congress. The heirs of those who opposed Medicare are conjuring the same bogymen — only this time they claim to be protecting Medicare.

Indeed, these same arguments we hear today against health reform were used even earlier, to attack President Franklin Roosevelt’s call for Social Security. It was denounced as a socialist program that would compete with private insurers and add to Americans’ tax burden so as to kill jobs.

Daniel Reed, a Republican representative from New York, predicted that with Social Security, Americans would come to feel “the lash of the dictator.” Senator Daniel Hastings, a Delaware Republican, declared that Social Security would “end the progress of a great country.”

John Taber, a Republican representative from New York, went further and said of Social Security: “Never in the history of the world has any measure been brought here so insidiously designed as to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers.”"


Sounds pretty familiar.
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