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Old 03-13-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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I think the Cardinals did a great thing. The more I read about this man the more I know this is God's will.

 
Old 03-13-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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Are you with the President's former campaign organization, turned secretly funded, so-called, advocacy group? This kind of 'accusation, innuendo, half-truths looks strikenly like how his campaigns were conducted.

Hope and promise and a whole lot of mis-direction. To your thinly disguised rumore mill, pffft.

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A friend of the poor and downtrodden? I wouldn't be so sure.

But the cardinals' choice risked running into immediate controversy over the new pope's role in Argentina's troubled history. In his book, El Silencio, a prominent Argentinian journalist alleged that he connived in the abduction of two Jesuit priests by the military junta in the so-called "dirty war". He denies the accusation.

Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio selected as 266th pontiff and takes name Pope Francis | World news | The Guardian

Allegations surrounding his refusal to speak up for priests rounded up during Argentina's 1976-1983 military dictatorship have been described by his supporters as an "old slander".

More broadly, critics have also condemned his record of refusing to speak out during the brutal crackdown when some 13,000 to 30,000 people died or disappeared.

Pope Francis profile: who is Argentina's Jorge Mario Bergoglio? - Telegraph

Many Argentines remain angry over the church's acknowledged failure to openly confront a regime that was kidnapping and killing thousands of people as it sought to eliminate "subversive elements" in society. It's one reason why more than two-thirds of Argentines describe themselves as Catholic, but fewer than 10 percent regularly attend mass.

Under Bergoglio's leadership, Argentina's bishops issued a collective apology in October 2012 for the church's failures to protect its flock. But the statement blamed the era's violence in roughly equal measure on both the junta and its enemies.

Jorge Bergoglio: New Pope Francis I and Argentina's military junta -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net
 
Old 03-13-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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A positive influence would be welcome, but not really expected.
And opposing marriage equality is not what I would consider a positive influence.

Same s**t/different pope.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 05:20 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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However I expect Obama to not like him of course.
And what do you base that on?

I mean, the guy's been pope for less than five hours; what makes you "expect" President Obama to not like him?
 
Old 03-13-2013, 05:24 PM
 
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Who cares? Sorry, I'm an atheist, I have no interest. And a coworker just sent a department wide email about it. I do believe that's inappropriate.
Given the influence the Catholic Church has I'm interested even though I'm not a Catholic.

And why should that be inappropriate? Announcing who the new pope is doesn't force you to become a Catholic.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: texas
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The name's Pope Francis, but everybody calls me Il Papa. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you. And I don't like nobody touching my stuff. So just keep your meat-hooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. Also, I don't like nobody touching me. Now, any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.


Lighten up, Francis
technically that is a movie quote...not a joke, so god still loves you.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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This should be moved to an appropriate forum.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 05:31 PM
 
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What, a pope resigning to avoid dealing with scandals, getting immunity from international law, and saying it's all "because of his age"?
Get back to me when you're heading a multinational organization at 85
 
Old 03-13-2013, 05:31 PM
 
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Any chance the new pope could be an American?
Well he is a South American and he seems to want do things differently starting with his choice of his official name.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 05:33 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The next pope should have superpowers.
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