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Old 07-02-2013, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Conservatives make it a moral issue that we need to protect life, every life is valuable, every child needs to be protected... until that child is born. Once that baby's out of the mother, their tune turns to "Eff you baby AND your mother."

How can Conservatives say w/ a straight face that every child's life is precious, and at the same time actively try to strip all the protections in place to ensure that child has the basics it needs for a healthy childhood?

Cuts to school lunch programs? Cuts to SNAP benefits? Cuts to centers that provide services to newborn & young children?

What kind of depravity does it take to force someone to bring a mouth that they can't afford into the world, then abandon that family to their own devices once you realize it costs YOU money?
Rwnj types only care about a child until it comes out of the womb...after that they couldn't care less...they are against planned parenthood,but do not want "welfare mothers" as they call them to get abortions? Hypocrits of the highest order.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Rwnj types only care about a child until it comes out of the womb...after that they couldn't care less...they are against planned parenthood,but do not want "welfare mothers" to get abortions? Hypocrits of the highest order.
The other option is just "delusional." It takes a special kind of dissonance to argue that a group that passes laws that end access to abortions, isn't against abortions.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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The other option is just "delusional." It takes a special kind of dissonance to argue that a group that passes laws that end access to abortions, isn't against abortions.
His argument is that since there is a minority of Republicans, mostly in more populated areas, who refuse to sign on with outlawing abortion, we cannot describe the Republican Party as a whole as one that wants to outlaw abortion. I will be waiting with bated breath for him to extend this logic to the Democratic Party and assert that Democrats do not want to control guns, since some Dems, a minority, oppose it.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Alexandria
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Conservatives simply demand that parents proudly stand on their own two feet and pay for the needs of their children without having to run for help from the government.

I know how literally true your point is. One time in Oklahoma, a bill tried to be passed that would allow a women, who didn't want her newborn baby, to turn it over to someone else for care without questions being asked. It was helped this would reduce the likelihood of the woman throwing her just born infant in the dumpster. But a conservative Republican opposed the bill, because it would allow women to get away with the crime of child abandonment.
Isn't Adoption a crime of child abandonment?
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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They care about controlling birth control, and abortion is birth control.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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What a bunch of gibberish.
its not even gibberish.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
Conservatives make it a moral issue that we need to protect life, every life is valuable, every child needs to be protected... until that child is born. Once that baby's out of the mother, their tune turns to "Eff you baby AND your mother."

How can Conservatives say w/ a straight face that every child's life is precious, and at the same time actively try to strip all the protections in place to ensure that child has the basics it needs for a healthy childhood?

Cuts to school lunch programs? Cuts to SNAP benefits? Cuts to centers that provide services to newborn & young children?

What kind of depravity does it take to force someone to bring a mouth that they can't afford into the world, then abandon that family to their own devices once you realize it costs YOU money?
fNothing like the same old shop-worn BS taking another lap around the stadium.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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Isn't Adoption a crime of child abandonment?
No, you're thinking of summer camp.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
Conservatives make it a moral issue that we need to protect life, every life is valuable, every child needs to be protected... until that child is born. Once that baby's out of the mother, their tune turns to "Eff you baby AND your mother."

How can Conservatives say w/ a straight face that every child's life is precious, and at the same time actively try to strip all the protections in place to ensure that child has the basics it needs for a healthy childhood?

Cuts to school lunch programs? Cuts to SNAP benefits? Cuts to centers that provide services to newborn & young children?

What kind of depravity does it take to force someone to bring a mouth that they can't afford into the world, then abandon that family to their own devices once you realize it costs YOU money?
Now, let's be real and post what is the true story: Cuts and not the same as stripping:
The huge majority of those who abort do not do so because they can not afford to raise a child: People who depend on the government to support or help support them do not abort.
There is an option many choose to overlook: it is called adoption
And now tell us what centers provide services to newborns and young children that are being cut? In fact what centers provide help for newborns period?

You really need to research before you post something.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Which is exactly why abortion should remain accessible to low income women. Because it's never going to change in the way modern America functions.



What part of it is a lie?

Low income women without access to abortions produce children, who cost a lot of money. Who rely on support of the government or end up in a dumpster. It's as simple as that.
Most low income women do not abort...
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