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Old 11-01-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Atlanta (Finally on 4-1-17)
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Underclass commits alot of crime. Regular Black people have nothing to do with the majority of this. I don't care what reason it is for, because at the end of the day, I pay for it, and I am the one who has to pay. On one hand, I could look at as "that's what happens when underclass Blacks misbehave". But then I also have to consider that Blacks as a whole have been hated and treated poorly for day one.

I've been profiled, and I didn't look anything like a "hood rat". And you know what? I vowed never to shop there ever again. I figure if I'm going to be singled out from the moment I get in, they deserve NONE of my money, period.

This reality signals to a larger social phenomenon: black individuals who commit crimes are representative of their whole communities, crime is racialized, and there is no qualifier of individual intent. All black people are deemed suspicious and guilty because of the deeds of the very few. Something that doesn't happen with any other race. Certainly not whites.

 
Old 11-01-2013, 07:28 PM
 
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This reality signals to a larger social phenomenon: black individuals who commit crimes are representative of their whole communities, crime is racialized, and there is no qualifier of individual intent. All black people are deemed suspicious and guilty because of the deeds of the very few. Something that doesn't happen with any other race. Certainly not whites.
And this is something that angers me. The question is "Why can't Blacks just be individuals"? If I do something, I take responsibility for it, not people unrelated to me, just ME. I am the one to take responsibility. If another Black person commits a crime, why must the entire Black population be held responsible for it?
 
Old 11-01-2013, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Katy, TX
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What are you going to do about it?
Stereotypes exist for a reason. I would be more angry at people of my race or culture acting the way they've been stereotyped to further prove peoples' points. Look like a thug, act like a thug, get treated like a thug.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Atlanta (Finally on 4-1-17)
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Stereotypes exist for a reason. I would be more angry at people of my race or culture acting the way they've been stereotyped to further prove peoples' points. Look like a thug, act like a thug, get treated like a thug.
I doubt if white inner males get treated the same way black inner males do.


I SE PLENTY of white males with hoodies, sagging pants,etc....

I work in a Federal Building. Most of the people that visit the building are white trashy people that are visitng the social security office.

Pure white trash. I'll put money on it.....those white guys that dress in "street" attire are not getting profiled the way black men that dress the same way are.


Your logic is just plumb dumb.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 07:56 PM
 
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Stereotypes exist for a reason. I would be more angry at people of my race or culture acting the way they've been stereotyped to further prove peoples' points. Look like a thug, act like a thug, get treated like a thug.
you can make the same parallels with white males and mass shootings/rape/pedophilia.

mass generalizing is what lazy and dumb people do, but its what specifically white conservative males do.

white conservative males say that they judge people as individuals, not groups, which they say supposedly liberals do, yet it is always white conservative males who bring up blacks as a group when they spout off about black crime.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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Stereotypes exist for a reason. I would be more angry at people of my race or culture acting the way they've been stereotyped to further prove peoples' points. Look like a thug, act like a thug, get treated like a thug.
Stereotypes should only be applied to those who fulfill those stereotypes. I would be very angry with those who try to apply that stereotype with me. Having the same skin color/ethnicity as those who behave like thugs doesn't make you a thug. It is what you do. If I haven't done anything to be classified as a thug, why should I be lumped in with the thugs who happen to be Black? And this isn't a rhetorical question. I'm seeking as answer.

Sure, I could be angry at those who fulfill the stereotype, but then I also have to consider that Blacks have been viewed as inferior and have been treated as such from day one, so I can also be mad at those who apply those stereotypes to me.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Atlanta (Finally on 4-1-17)
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Stereotypes should only be applied to those who fulfill those stereotypes. I would be very angry with those who try to apply that stereotype with me. Having the same skin color/ethnicity as those who behave like thugs doesn't make you a thug. It is what you do. If I haven't done anything to be classified as a thug, why should I be lumped in with the thugs who happen to be Black? And this isn't a rhetorical question. I'm seeking as answer.

Sure, I could be angry at those who fulfill the stereotype, but then I also have to consider that Blacks have been viewed as inferior and have been treated as such from day one, so I can also be mad at those who apply those stereotypes to me.

Just as a side, as you know, I believe this forum is filled with a lot of uneducated people. No one with good sense is going to say the ass backwards things that are said on this forum.

These fools do not represent the majority, in the real world, and as you know, there are a lot of white people that do "get it" and they do understand, both liberal and conservative. Unfortunately, this forum is filled with the trash.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 10:25 PM
 
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you can make the same parallels with white males and mass shootings/rape/pedophilia.

mass generalizing is what lazy and dumb people do, but its what specifically white conservative males do.

white conservative males say that they judge people as individuals, not groups, which they say supposedly liberals do, yet it is always white conservative males who bring up blacks as a group when they spout off about black crime.
Uh; mass shootings ain't that much of a "white" thing in 2013; many Blacks and even a few Asians are doing those same things.

Rape: I don't know what group of dudes are worse; either Black or white.

Pedos: I'm quite sure many kids of any color get hurt by Black pedos as well as by white ones.

You gotta remember us whites about 6 times the number of people in the US compared to Black people so in numbers there'd be more "white" crime.
 
Old 11-02-2013, 05:33 AM
 
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Uh; mass shootings ain't that much of a "white" thing in 2013; many Blacks and even a few Asians are doing those same things.

Rape: I don't know what group of dudes are worse; either Black or white.

Pedos: I'm quite sure many kids of any color get hurt by Black pedos as well as by white ones.

You gotta remember us whites about 6 times the number of people in the US compared to Black people so in numbers there'd be more "white" crime.
IT's all moot anyway once you adjust for things like poverty.

There is no statistical evidence than skin color has any bearing on crime etc.

It does correlate to poverty etc. though, for obvious reasons.....and poverty etc. are what links to crime.
 
Old 11-02-2013, 05:35 AM
 
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IT's all moot anyway once you adjust for things like poverty.

There is no statistical evidence than skin color has any bearing on crime etc.

It does correlate to poverty etc. though, for obvious reasons.....and poverty etc. are what links to crime.
That is part of it. It is also how a person is raised that plays a part too,
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