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Old 01-24-2014, 05:17 PM
 
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Well, I haven't seen it with my own eyes, but by all accounts, that boy in the video has a penis. Last I checked, only boys have a penis. That's all the evidence I need. So in other words, it's exactly as Little Acorn said; He's a boy with a mixed up brain. Not his fault or anyone elses for that matter, but it is what it is, and trying to pretend otherwise only makes things worse.



Why is this a right/left wing thing in your mind? My political affiliations have nothing to do with my opinions on this. As a human being, I see this as a weird mental disorder that needs fixing. I don't think we should try and blur the lines between what is real and what is imagined just to give someone the false impression that what they are going through is a normal thing. The anatomical truth is that he is a boy, and any other realties lay solely within the confines of the brain.
You are not a medical specialist. What makes you think you know what's best for this child? Would you stake a child's life on your non-medical uninformed opinion?

Do you have an equally uninformed opinion on intersexed children that you would like to share as well?

http://www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:22 PM
 
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None of your sources scientifically proves anything. You can claim they do, but they don't.
My sources provide scientific evidence that supports a position held by scientists.

What do you got?

Nothing? Were you under the impression that the simple act of denying its existence repeatedly would be somehow meaningful in any way?

Bottom line: come up with some science to support your contention. Pages into this thread and I've yet to see any, only your 100% unqualified contention that the scientific evidence and the scientists are all wrong. If they're wrong, and you're so certain of it, then surely you can produce some science to back it up. If not, you can spam this thread with denials until its 100 pages long and it won't make an ounce of difference, you'd still be all talk and no evidence, and you still lose. I got science, your uneducated opinion don't count for squat compared to that.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:22 PM
 
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You are not a medical specialist. What makes you think you know what's best for this child? Would you stake a child's life on your non-medical uninformed opinion?
Gender theory experiments always ended in disasters. Nordic countries tried to apply it for some time then stopped completely. Scientifical theories are always backed up by empirical research and that is not the case for gender theory. After it was proven through real life experience that gender theory is completely absurd nordic countries closed all activites of the Nordic Gender Institute.

Nordic Countries defund Gender Ideology : Turtle Bay and Beyond – International Law, Policy, and Institutions
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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Your claim that the gender theory is grounded in actual science is just plain false. It does not matter how often you say it, it will not make it the truth, because there is zero evidence behind the gender theory.

Again : there is no science backing up the theory, it is merely a bizarre hypothesis according to which gender and biological sex are not related. This theory was first articulated by John Money a Neo-Zelander who tested it on a couple of male twins. One was raised as a boy and the other as a girl. His experiment ended in tragedy when both twins committed suicide once they reached adulthood.

One can be made to believe they are of the opposite gender. It does not make it real.

According to you guys, a male athlete who becomes a woman should be allowed to fight women on a ring (look up MMA fighter Fallon Fox ) .

According to you guys, a male who becomes a woman and is still attracted to women is now a lesbian.

This whole thing is just absurd.
You don't even know enough to realize that you are shooting your own argument in the foot.

Read the story of David Reimer (that's the story you are referring to). You got the story completely wrong too.

David Reimer

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Old 01-24-2014, 05:31 PM
 
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Science? I have news for you, psychiatrists do not have a handle on this despite what you think, in fact they just changed the name of this condition to Gender Dysmorphia because the lefties didn't like the psychiatric community's original diagnosis that it was a "disorder".

You are just as anti-science as any one else when it doesn't fit your agenda.

BTW,
It's Gender Dysphoria.

There is no such thing as Gender Dysmorphia

Body Dysmorphia is something else.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:36 PM
 
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It's Gender Dysphoria.

There is no such thing as Gender Dysmorphia

Body Dysmorphia is something else.
....and there's really no such thing a 'gender theory'. What's that? The theory that there are two genders?
Aren't you glad we have such educated and erudite people on here to set us straight?
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:42 PM
 
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Gender theory experiments always ended in disasters. Nordic countries tried to apply it for some time then stopped completely. Scientifical theories are always backed up by empirical research and that is not the case for gender theory. After it was proven through real life experience that gender theory is completely absurd nordic countries closed all activites of the Nordic Gender Institute.

Nordic Countries defund Gender Ideology : Turtle Bay and Beyond – International Law, Policy, and Institutions
You keep shooting yourself in the foot. Did you not even read the article you linked to?
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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My sources provide scientific evidence that supports a position held by scientists.
No. They. Don't.

Until empirical research has proven the validity of their theory, their theory is just that, a theory. You know that without real experimentation no theory is valid right ? Writing a book does not make your arguments more solid. You have to have real research and if your publication makes sense your theory will be recognised as valid by the scientific community. That has not happened with gender theory. See an exemple of that in my post above.

I also note that you adopt a dishonest position : you claim your views are true, then fail to prove it, and then ask your opponents in the discussion to prove your claim wrong. You make the claim so burden of proof is on you. I said what all scientists on earth agree with : XX = girl and XY = boy. If you challenge that but have no evidence then gender theory remains a mere opinion. And please stop bringing your "scientific sources" in the discussion they do not prove anything : without real research they are mere speculation and it is not my fault if the rules of scientific publication are what they are.

Gender identity disorder does exist, in the sense the person truly believes she should be of the opposite gender.

The key sentence pronounced by Jazz, the little boy in the video : "I want to be a girl".

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Old 01-24-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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You keep shooting yourself in the foot. Did you not even read the article you linked to?
I did. Did you ? Please if you do not take this discussion seriously do not participate.

if it was not against city data rules I would quote the article so it would be apparent that you do not actually read the material provided and which your side asked for.

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Old 01-24-2014, 05:49 PM
 
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You keep shooting yourself in the foot. Did you not even read the article you linked to?
Check out the website itself, it's a it's a far-right laugh riot. In the AIDS section they repeat the old and often refuted lie about how ineffective condoms, even when used properly, are at preventing the spread of HIV.
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