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The private contract is the same type of private contract that travelers cons senior citizen into every year and then steal them blind. Unfortunately we have a whole group of right wing bots over the age of 65 that listen to this dribble and then faithfully vote as they are told. They are manipulated in the same way as con men tell them they need a new roof or a new driveway. Hey if you are a Tea Partier send Glen Beck, Levitin, Limbaugh, and the rest of them your money.
Congratulations the ignorance within this post knows no bounds. Look in the mirror the real bot is there
THATS WHAT I SAID ALL ALONG.. That they had their policies being cancelled, and had to buy a new policy on the exchange, and YOU are counting them as newly insured, benefiting from ACA.
hahahah....
FAIL
Wow, you really can't read for comprehension.
I am writing just because they received a cancellation notice doesn't mean they had to buy a policy on the exchanges, that is the exact opposite of your point.
No that's not what that means. Can you all read for comprehension? It means that 2.6million might have gotten cancellation notices. It doesn't mean they lost their insurance. Millions of the previously insured bought off exchange insurance policies.
That you all don't know this doesn't speak well to understanding the impact of the law.
What we know, is that due to a government that lies to us, distorts the truth, plays loose with the data, and has deceived us in the past - that we don't really know what is factual, what is spin, or purposeful deception or outright lies from or government.
Maybe it's 2.6 million or 2 million, or maybe its 3 million, but what the hell does it matter for the sake of this discussion??
No that's not what that means. Can you all read for comprehension? It means that 2.6million might have gotten cancellation notices. It doesn't mean they lost their insurance. Millions of the previously insured bought off exchange insurance policies.
That you all don't know this doesn't speak well to understanding the impact of the law.
Wait a second, so you are saying people who got cancellation notices doesn't mean they lost their insurance? You say it right there. "it doesn't mean they lost their insurance"
Yet on post #109
These kinds of things happened well before the ACA and thus it is not unreasonable for the CBO to calculate those people who because of the normal churn of the insurance market would have lost their insurance, but who because of the ACA will get to keep it.
You argue that in justifying that the CBO is counting those who signed up for the exchanges who got their policies canceled: You argued it's not unreasonable for the CBO to calculate those people among the newly insured 7 million figure.
The real impact of the law a lot less people are getting access to healthcare than the administration is bragging about. New Medicaid sign ups out number outnumber newly insured exchange signs up for a 2:1 margin.
The administration has to sell this law to the middle class. They have to include the middle class in the discussion. That's why the exchanges are the key. It doesn't matter how many medicaid sign ups you got. Because Democrats cannot win elections without appealing to the middle class who pay premiums.
So they need to inflate the exchange numbers to make it look like the middle class is benefiting from the ACA. Now they are including newly insured people with employer sponsored health plans in their discussion as well?
I am writing just because they received a cancellation notice doesn't mean they had to buy a policy on the exchanges, that is the exact opposite of your point.
Wow, just wow smh. LOL
no no no, you said people didnt lose insurance because of ACA, now all of a sudden they did, but they MIGHT not have bought it thorugh the exchange.. You continue to move the goal post as your postings get laughed at as utterly ridiculous.
Here, I'll bite, how many of those 2.6 million individuals got insurance through the exchange
But lets go with YOUR argument, that cancellations didnt occur until the end of 2013..
WHY do you think cancellations occurred right before ACA kicked in? Just a coincidence? And how can you count these people as newly insured IF THEY ARENT.. THEY JUST LOST INSURANCE..
That's not my argument. That is your argument.
My argument isn't that most of those policy cancellations notices resulted in cancelled policies.
I am writing just because they received a cancellation notice doesn't mean they had to buy a policy on the exchanges, that is the exact opposite of your point.
I am writing just because they received a cancellation notice doesn't mean they had to buy a policy on the exchanges, that is the exact opposite of your point.
Wow, just wow smh. LOL
For the most of the policies are almost the same on or off the exchanges. The main difference is whether one wants to get subsidies or not. Because they insurers were pushing those who's polices were being canceled to more expensive plans that they attached with their letters. Insurers don't care. They know people have to buy insurance or pay a fine. So they have very little incentive to save consumers money off the exchanges by offering them "cheaper" plans. Since all the plans being offered must included the 10 essentials (maternity coverage being one of the more expensive requirements)
6 out of the 7 million enrolled in the exchanges received subsidies.
Gallup Poll is reporting that 4% of Americans are newly insured in their most recent poll. That means that 12 million Americans who didnt have insurance last year now have insurance. This of course includes Medicaid. Whats wrong with 12 million people who didnt have insurance now getting insurance?
My argument isn't that most of those policy cancellations notices resulted in cancelled policies.
What is a cancellation notice if not a cancellation notice?
Why dont you stop embarassing yourself and admit that the newly insured figures being promoted are A LIE because some of them had insurance but obtained insurance through the exachange and thus arent newly insured?
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