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So what you're admitting, is that the left wing talking point that Gruber meant that they had to hide that the healthy would be paying more so that the sick could get benefits, is another lie being told by the left..
Yeah, we knew that..
You do realize that the entire financial structure of insurance, as a general product, is non-claimants paying more so that the claimants receive benefits right? In the case of health insurance it is just the healthy paying more so that the sick can get benefits.
Have you not heard of Harry Reid?
Bills from both dems and repubs litter the floor of the senate while the media tosses the phrase, 'do nothing congress' and Obama refuses to negotiate after he tells the country he will listen to any good ideas.
I mentioned house AND Senate in my post. See last line. Reid is 100% as guilty as Boehner (SP?)
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Don't you feel just a little bit foolish having bought into? There is still time to break free and re-evaluate your position. Otherwise you stand with nefarious liars of low moral character. Associating with such hoodlums will impact your reputation.
No, I don't, because as I've said SO MANY TIMES, the left is just as guilty as the right. If you read my posting history, I have said over and over again that NEITHER party has yours (or mine) interest in mind, and that both are owned by special interest. The thing I see more of is the right trying to frame the left as the problem. They are EQUALLY the problem, and I reject anyone that blames either side more than the other.
Take just about any issue, and the control is in the hands of corporate America. It applies to Obama, it applies to the Republicans and it applies to the Democratic Party.
It is all being decided by special interest. I'd love to "break free", but currently there is no party out there offering a solution. Not the Dems, not the Repubs. Do you disagree with that?
You do realize that the entire financial structure of insurance, as a general product, is non-claimants paying more so that the claimants receive benefits right? In the case of health insurance it is just the healthy paying more so that the sick can get benefits.
Insurance premiums are usually appropriately risk-adjusted. Obamacare doesn't allow that. The healthy are being overcharged for their insurance to pay for the sick. Even Gruber admits it. Those who are responsible, physically fit, live a healthy lifestyle, etc., are being overcharged to pay for the negative health consequences of the irresponsible obese, smokers, drug/alcohol abusers, etc.
Who are the sheep following? The RW media overplaying the same comments over and over. The speaker (Gruber) who said he was wrong for making the comments last week.
Who followed the discussion, those who have gotten the Ins, and find it works just fine and has lower costs. Or the people who listen to the RW media and fall for every website claiming that Obamacare is bad.
Look at the whole picture and you will find you are being played.
Your point is valid. Just not in this thread. Start one separate with equal documentation of chicanery. Then your posts will have some validity. Otherwise you look like one who just wants to sidetrack the thread.
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I mentioned house AND Senate in my post. See last line. Reid is 100% as guilty as Boehner (SP?)
No, I don't, because as I've said SO MANY TIMES, the left is just as guilty as the right. If you read my posting history, I have said over and over again that NEITHER party has yours (or mine) interest in mind, and that both are owned by special interest. The thing I see more of is the right trying to frame the left as the problem. They are EQUALLY the problem, and I reject anyone that blames either side more than the other.
Take just about any issue, and the control is in the hands of corporate America. It applies to Obama, it applies to the Republicans and it applies to the Democratic Party.
It is all being decided by special interest. I'd love to "break free", but currently there is no party out there offering a solution. Not the Dems, not the Repubs. Do you disagree with that?
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Calling Democrats stupid and uninformed....
