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I wouldn't say suburbs have poor schools, but I agree that inner city schools get a bad rap. Of my four kids, two are in high school - one in an inner city "failing" school; one in the suburban school. Guess which one I will miss dearly and wish I could have all of them at. You are correct if you said the inner city one.
Per the bolded --- You don't get out much, do you?
The once good suburban schools that my child went to are now overrun with illegal aliens and poor immigrant kids. The elementary school that my child went to now can't even get full accreditation.
Well I take it you are "rich" then because there is obviously nothing in between being rich and being poor in this country. Your "facts" don't actually look at the issues that go on with each of those numbers.
I think it is time for Americans to stop trying to pretend that they too will someday be rich, and start accepting the fact that we should be striving for middle class. A healthy middle class is a healthy country.
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It won't work where everyone outside of the government is concerned. This is Obama's chip on his shoulder and his way of getting back at America, which he insists on blaming for other countries' problems.
I worked for many years for housing authorities as a consultant and as an employee.
FYI, Housing Choice Voucher residents (HCV is now what they call Section 8) has been in suburban communities for 20+ years now. It is not a new thing that Obama started.
On the OP, it improves outcomes by de-concentrating poverty and crime. There have been studies done over the decades that have shown that those children especially who are HCV residents benefit from a better education and better social outcomes by not growing up in poverty stricken, urban communities.
De-concentrating poverty in this way has also caused crime to decrease in practically every major urban area since the mid to late 1990s.
It does work.
I used to live in the Baltimore area, and all its done is push crime, gangs and drugs into the suburbs and push middle class people further out. Thankfully here in West Virginia, the people in the small hoods know the rest of us are very well armed and know to best not come around here and cause trouble.
I used to live in the Baltimore area, and all its done is push crime, gangs and drugs into the suburbs and push middle class people further out. Thankfully here in West Virginia, the people in the small hoods know the rest of us are very well armed and know to best not come around here and cause trouble.
So you feel more comfortable being armed in west virginia than baltimore.
A place is only a good place to live because the people that live there make it so.
My parents always taught me this. If you take care of your house, it will take care of you.
My boyfriend and I spend some of our free time working on our house. He repainted the living room last week. Yesterday, he ripped out the old bushes and planted very beautiful flower plants. I take care of the lawn. Green and lushes.
Frankly, I don't understand why some people just let garbage collect all over their lawn.
My parents always taught me this. If you take care of your house, it will take care of you.
My boyfriend and I spend some of our free time working on our house. He repainted the living room last week. Yesterday, he ripped out the old bushes and planted very beautiful flower plants. I take care of the lawn. Green and lushes.
Frankly, I don't understand why some people just let garbage collect all over their lawn.
It should be common sense that the quality of a neighborhood is directly tied to the people that live there, but for some, this is a mystery.
I spent several hours today doing yard work. I did it, not only because of personal pride, but because I feel a sense of responsibility to my neighbors. Not taking care of your home directly affects the home values in your neighborhood. When enough people in the neighborhood don't care about their homes, then you have a place where people don't want to live.
You know, I've known someone who lived in Section 8 housing...apartment buildings in Seattle. It was a brand new building at the time, and every time I went to visit this person, what I noticed was how quiet and respectful the neighbors were. There were neighbors that were white, there were neighbors who were black, there were some neighbors who were Hispanic. NONE of them were loud, obnoxious, rude, nor arrogant. Not a single one of them left a mess anywhere in the hallways or where people could park.
I've lived in areas with no section 8 people around. I know someone personally who rents a house and they do not get section 8 because they make too much money...despite what they will tell you. Their house is a disgusting pit. Their yard is like a junk yard that has been left to swelter in the sun - weeds and rocks, not green grass and a lovely patio - a run down junk yard. Their fence leans over, has multiple holes in it made by their dog, and the gate is broken beyond belief. They've lived there 3 years. In that 3 years, they have destroyed the place. When they move out, the landlord is going to lose a LOT of money cleaning, repairing, replacing, putting in new floors, blinds, and painting. I don't know if the landlord is a jerk, but even if he was, I feel bad for him that he's going to lose so. much. money. to make the place ready for a new tenant. These people have completely destroyed the place with their pig sty living style.
They are not section 8 recipients. They are not poor...they aren't rich, but they aren't poor, either, although again, they will tell you every single day how so very poor they are...because they are STUPID with their money and spend it as soon as they get it, and it would seem as if one of them has a hoarding problem, the other enables by not doing a thing about it...and let me tell you, it has affected the kids to the point that one has no respect for anyone nor himself, does have some deep seated anger issues that are going to come out one day - right now he just avoids people - and one who is so eager to please, that he takes on every single worry and concern of everyone around him...it's going to damage him, because that always damages people.
To imply that people who live in Section 8 housing are pigs who don't care is wrong. To imply that those who live in the suburbs who do not get Section 8 housing are somehow innocent victims of all the Section 8 housing people, is utter BS. If anything, I feel sorry for anyone who is a Section 8 housing recipient and lives anywhere near the pigs that I know who are not Section 8 housing recipients.
Why should able-bodied people be allowed to live like parasites off of the hard work of other people?
You call yourself "Christianity."
I don't know what you mean by that, but I am sick and tired of Christians being generous at everyone else's expense -- not theirs.
Spend your own money on the lazy and shiftless -- but please don't reach into my pocket or ruin my neighborhood with your catering to the irresponsible!
Churches are becoming what are called "attractive nuisances." It is best not to live to near them nowadays. When they aren't bringing in Muslim immigrants -- very secretively, in collaboration with the government -- they are pushing for burdening the taxpayers with irresponsible people.
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Everybody should live in a good place.......
Feel free to pay for that.
Yourself!
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So, you think that throwing rocks at other kids is justified? Seriously?
Yep, that's how liberals think.
The crime isn't throwing rocks.
The crime is complaining about it.
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.... There should be no bad place to live.....
Everybody should live in a good place....
Should, should, should.
What are you going to do to make it happen?
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You mentioned Hitler. You invoked Godwin's Law. You lose. Big time.
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Huh??..
Its okay if YOU love labor camps...
Okay, I wasn't clear enough.
In these camps, you will get up at 5 a.m, be fed a modest breakfast, and then you will work for a full day. And you will have no choice, because failure to work and do your job will result in physical punishment.
It will be "lights out" at 9 p.m., so that you can get a good night's sleep and do the same thing the next day.
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It should be common sense that the quality of a neighborhood is directly tied to the people that live there, but for some, this is a mystery.
I spent several hours today doing yard work. I did it, not only because of personal pride, but because I feel a sense of responsibility to my neighbors. Not taking care of your home directly affects the home values in your neighborhood. When enough people in the neighborhood don't care about their homes, then you have a place where people don't want to live.
Well said.
It is true that there are non-section 8 people that are also bad neighbors.
But this is just part of our culture in which people no longer have any consideration for others.
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