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Who would want a section 8 apartment complex built next to their $250,000.00 home? Who wants to live next to low income housing? Say what you want, but crime is a big problem in such locations. Say what you want but the behaviors and habits of many of those in such housing aren't what we want our children exposed to.
If you were correct, then we wouldn't have had to sign paperwork stating that we didn't want any Section 8 tenants.
BTW, there are enough stories and YouTube videos showing how Section 8 tenants trashed the homes they rented. Some have no idea how to take care of a home or a yard.
That said, there are Section 8 tenants that don't do those things. We weren't willing to take a chance with the program---and we have every right to not take a Section 8 tenant where I live. Do you own a home that you rent out to Section 8 tenants?
I have a friend who lived in a townhouse. The one next door to her was a Section 8 rental. Through the years, she had some good neighbors and she also had the neighbors from hell in that house. It was a real crapshoot.
Stop twisting things. I never said that all Section 8 tenants "are lowlife degenerates". You need to get a grip.
Again, you cannot rent to HCV residents unless your property has been inspected an approved as a Section 8 eligible unit.
You don't have to sign paperwork stating you "didn't want" to rent to Section 8 tenants by law. If it occurred it was probably some property management specific paperwork as many management companies actually will have your property inspected/approved to be HCV and give you HCV tenants if you want. They know what to do to speed up the approval process.
In regards to the bold about your "friend" that situation is common regardless of whether you rent to Section 8 tenants or not. I worked for a property management company that also worked for housing authorities and we had market rate tenants who trashed places and who were neighbors from "hell" for our other tenants. That is the risk you take when you rent out your property to anyone. FWIW, we had more issues with our market rate tenants versus HCV tenants in regards to housekeeping in particular whereas they would trash places or be hoarders and we would have to call in haz-mat cleaning crews when they moved in order to clean out apartments.
And again on Montgomery County, they do not make every landlord accept Section 8. HCV/Section 8 is a federal program that has basic requirements on the parts of landlords and one is that the landlord has to apply to the program, have their property be inspected, and be approved to be a Section 8/HCV landlord. Any run of the mill landlord with a property cannot accept a voucher because they have to be entered into a housing authorities AP system in order to be cut a check for the subsidy. MoCo has a local regulation that landlords cannot discriminate based on "source of income." A voucher is considered a source of income and if an applicant applies to an HCV approved location with a voucher, they cannot be denied solely because they have a Section 8 voucher. That is the gist of the situation in that area.
Also what the other poster told you above is correct in that landlords create their own lease and their own (within local landlord/tenant laws) guidelines for their tenants. They also can use various screening tools on HCV applicants/residents same as they use for market rate tenants. As long as you have appropriate screening in place, you should not have many issues with HCV residents.
I don't think it's fair to compare a safety net to an actual genocide.
"Safety Net" It's a way of life forced on people who are given no other options. This is what the Democrats are masters of. Welfare, food stamps, sec 8...is like an Adrian Peterson stiff arm. They are providing the basics for people while keeping them out of main stream society.
If you get a job and earn too much money, you lose your benefits. If you get married and provided a father for your child, you lose benefits. See how that works?
The "Section 8" people. An underclass created by the government. "Safety nets" should be reserved for blind people, or people with no legs and/or no arms, or other extreme situations.
Normal people should live on their own steam, and not act as vampires on those that choose to live rationally. And no state agency should ever be allowed in any way, shape, or form, to practice social engineering by "moving" "Section 8" people to and fro.
Again, there should be no section 8 at all. Housing is a product and a service, NOT A RIGHT. The private market should provide, and price, all housing in a free and unencumbered fashion.
And yes, if you can't live right and make good and rational choices, you should live wherever that gets you.
The "Section 8" people. An underclass created by the government. "Safety nets" should be reserved for blind people, or people with no legs and/or no arms, or other extreme situations.
Normal people should live on their own steam, and not act as vampires on those that choose to live rationally.
I personally believe that giving money to people just to keep them out of the workforce but essentially blackmail them into voting Democratic for fear of losing their basic benefits is a clear violation of the constitution and it's a serious conflict of interest.
The "Section 8" people. An underclass created by the government. "Safety nets" should be reserved for blind people, or people with no legs and/or no arms, or other extreme situations.
Normal people should live on their own steam, and not act as vampires on those that choose to live rationally. And no state agency should ever be allowed in any way, shape, or form, to practice social engineering by "moving" "Section 8" people to and fro.
People who are blind and missing limbs do use Section 8
It has already been discussed within the thread that a large amount of users (about 40%) are either elderly or disabled.
Section 8 residents choose where they want to live. The government doesn't move them "to and fro."
"Safety Net" It's a way of life forced on people who are given no other options. This is what the Democrats are masters of. Welfare, food stamps, sec 8...is like an Adrian Peterson stiff arm. They are providing the basics for people while keeping them out of main stream society.
If you get a job and earn too much money, you lose your benefits. If you get married and provided a father for your child, you lose benefits. See how that works?
None of this was in dispute. But where does the US genocide come in?
I personally believe that giving money to people just to keep them out of the workforce but essentially blackmail them into voting Democratic for fear of losing their basic benefits is a clear violation of the constitution and it's a serious conflict of interest.
That is true, and it is also a violation of basic morality and ethics. Once you have a system of public translation where "I need" becomes "I demand", you've already lost, and it's only a matter of time until we disintegrate. We see that all around us.
Genocide isn't only physical murder. I'm broadening the concept. If you kill the spirit and the future for vast classes of people by giving them free stuff taken from others, it's still genocide. They are biologically present, but you have destroyed what makes life worth living: challenge, struggle, accomplishment, virtue, strength, honor. What are you left with? Groups of ineffective and castrated people that nobody wants to be around.
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