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No wonder Clinton and other liberals who were so supportive of Obamacare and against price gauging and money hungry medical companies, but never said a word about this enormous price gauging!
The Epipen and similar drug price gouging stories are reprehensible.
But your blame game is upside down.
Many Democrats want legislation to lower drug prices. A system such as exists in Canada and Europe often is mentioned.
Republicans constantly block any such proposals.
Voters who want controls on drug prices, a necessity to restore U.S. economic competitiveness, should not vote for Republicans.
Large numbers of Democratic Congresspersons would support the establishment of an agency such as the Canadian Patented Medicine Prices Review Board. Is there a single Republican Congressperson that would support establishing such an agency in the U.S.?
<<“If we could have had the chance to get in place [Medicare price] negotiation, which Republicans fought tooth and nail, that would have made a major difference.” Meanwhile, Democrats still in Congress haven’t given up on one day being able to reopen the law to improve it. Republicans still say the whole thing must be repealed and replaced, although they have yet to consolidate behind a different plan six years after the passage of Obamacare.>>
All that matters to Republicans IMO are the "revolving door" benefits available in private industry and large pots of lobbyist and special interest money.
Large numbers of Democratic Congresspersons would support the establishment of an agency such as the Canadian Patented Medicine Prices Review Board. Is there a single Republican Congressperson that would support establishing such an agency in the U.S.?
<<“If we could have had the chance to get in place [Medicare price] negotiation, which Republicans fought tooth and nail, that would have made a major difference.” Meanwhile, Democrats still in Congress haven’t given up on one day being able to reopen the law to improve it. Republicans still say the whole thing must be repealed and replaced, although they have yet to consolidate behind a different plan six years after the passage of Obamacare.>>
All that matters to Republicans IMO are the "revolving door" benefits available in private industry and large pots of lobbyist and special interest money.
So, if as you say the Democrats really,really wanted to do these things but the mean old Republicans stopped 'em then why oh why wasn't it a headliner item when they had control of all the branches of government?
They shoved Obamacare through, they had total control for a long time (jn congressional years) so why the FLOP on several issues?
My thought is these issues weren't/aren't really all that important until someone calls 'em on it.
So, if as you say the Democrats really,really wanted to do these things but the mean old Republicans stopped 'em then why oh why wasn't it a headliner item when they had control of all the branches of government?
They shoved Obamacare through, they had total control for a long time (jn congressional years) so why the FLOP on several issues?
My thought is these issues weren't/aren't really all that important until someone calls 'em on it.
Can't you read? The links in my post 72 explain all of this, and how Republicans steadfastly refuse to allow federal drug price negotiations.
When Ted Kennedy died, the Democrats no longer had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, and the Republicans adamantly opposed Medicare price negotiations, and the Republicans still do, even causing Donald Trump to back off his earlier policy statement of negotiating Medicare drug prices. You can't say that the Democrats are the puppets of the pharma industry and then totally ignore the Republicans, apparently all of whom are having their strings pulled by the pharma industry.
Did you read the links in my post 72, which you quoted, before posting this nonsense?
Certainly some Democrats may cave in supporting drug price negotiations, but what Republican is in favor of federal drug price negotiations? Please name them, because I'm actually curious if there are any.
The Epipen and similar drug price gouging stories are reprehensible.
But your blame game is upside down.
Many Democrats want legislation to lower drug prices. A system such as exists in Canada and Europe often is mentioned.
It could have been a part of Obamacare but it wasn't. That is not said to defend the Republicans as you can not but the Democrats are no better. You can find a handful wanting to do the correct thing but Obamacare did the opposite of the correct thing.
It could have been a part of Obamacare but it wasn't. That is not said to defend the Republicans as you can not but the Democrats are no better. You can find a handful wanting to do the correct thing but Obamacare did the opposite of the correct thing.
Medicare drug price negotiations could not have been part of Obamacare because after the death of Ted Kennedy, there were not enough Senators willing to support price negotiation to provide the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. So Medicare drug price negotiation requirements were removed from Obamacare despite overwhelming Democratic support. Only a few Republicans supported Obamacare, even without Medicare price negotiation provisions.
It's ridiculous to equate the Republicans with the Democrats on drug price controls. An overwhelming majority of Democrats support Medicare drug price negotiations. See the last link in post 72. Few, if any, Republicans support Medicare drug price negotiations.
Additionally, despite all of their promises, the Republicans have not yet produced legislation to replace Obamacare with a superior national healthcare plan, despite Republican control of Congress.
Again, show me the Republicans in favor of Medicare drug price negotiation.
BTW, how did Obamacare do the opposite of the correct thing regarding drug price controls? There were no drug price controls before Obamacare, and there were none after Obamacare, all due to Republican opposition of drug price controls.
Medicare drug price negotiations could not have been part of Obamacare because after the death of Ted Kennedy, there were not enough Senators willing to support price negotiation to provide the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. So Medicare drug price negotiation requirements were removed from Obamacare despite overwhelming Democratic support. Only a few Republicans supported Obamacare, even without Medicare price negotiation provisions.
And these loss of votes came from...........? They got 60 votes. Also as far as you know there never were part of anything because we were not allowed to know what was in it until they passed it.
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It's ridiculous to equate the Republicans with the Democrats on drug price controls. An overwhelming majority of Democrats support Medicare drug price negotiations. See the last link in post 72. Few, if any, Republicans support Medicare drug price negotiations.
Additionally, despite all of their promises, the Republicans have not yet produced legislation to replace Obamacare with a superior national healthcare plan, despite Republican control of Congress.
Again, show me the Republicans in favor of Medicare drug price negotiation.
BTW, how did Obamacare do the opposite of the correct thing regarding drug price controls? There were no drug price controls before Obamacare, and there were none after Obamacare, all due to Republican opposition of drug price controls.
Republican, Republican, Republican........I'm NOT trying to defend the Republicans but this is all you have as an excuse. I'm voting for Jill Stein.
And these loss of votes came from...........? They got 60 votes. Also as far as you know there never were part of anything because we were not allowed to know what was in it until they passed it.
Republican, Republican, Republican........I'm NOT trying to defend the Republicans but this is all you have as an excuse. I'm voting for Jill Stein.
You've repeatedly said the Democrats are as responsible for out-of-control drug prices as the Republicans. I've documented repeatedly why this isn't true.
Large numbers of Democratic Congresspersons would support the establishment of an agency such as the Canadian Patented Medicine Prices Review Board. Is there a single Republican Congressperson that would support establishing such an agency in the U.S.?
<<“If we could have had the chance to get in place [Medicare price] negotiation, which Republicans fought tooth and nail, that would have made a major difference.” Meanwhile, Democrats still in Congress haven’t given up on one day being able to reopen the law to improve it. Republicans still say the whole thing must be repealed and replaced, although they have yet to consolidate behind a different plan six years after the passage of Obamacare.>>
All that matters to Republicans IMO are the "revolving door" benefits available in private industry and large pots of lobbyist and special interest money.
Then why does Hillary accept their donations?
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