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Old 08-27-2016, 05:39 PM
 
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CEO Heather Bresch is the daughter of Joe Manchin who is a Democrat Senator of West Virginia.

The daughter's company donated $ 250,000 to the Clinton Foundation!

No wonder Clinton and other liberals who were so supportive of Obamacare and against price gauging and money hungry medical companies, but never said a word about this enormous price gauging!

When are we holding people responsible as the people who need this Epipen most likely can't afford this price gauging and money hungry CEO and daughter of a Dem. Senator who voted for Obamacare and against the money hungry pharmaceutical companies... except when a family is the CEO the Democrats are silent!
While you may want to dwell on the fact that the CEOs dad is a democrat. the company itself is American and employs 35000 people and is an example of the free market system in action with its outlandish price increase of its Epipen.Perhaps government should step in socialist style and tell Mylan what prices it should sell its products for?
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Old 08-27-2016, 05:43 PM
 
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While you may want to dwell on the fact that the CEOs dad is a democrat. the company itself is American and employs 35000 people and is an example of the free market system in action with its outlandish price increase of its Epipen.Perhaps government should step in socialist style and tell Mylan what prices it should sell its products for?
You don't know what free market means.
Taxpayer money was used to develop the product- not free market
The FDA has created a monopoly for said product- not free market
The govt should not set prices nor should it interfer in the market
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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You don't know what free market means.
Taxpayer money was used to develop the product- not free market
The FDA has created a monopoly for said product- not free market
The govt should not set prices nor should it interfer in the market
Mostly wrong. The device was a re-purposing of a military device but has had lots of free market improvements.
The monopoly is at least partially driven by patents not the FDA. It is difficult to make a fully competitive device against the epipen patents that exist. Patents are generally considered free market.
The legislature has barred the government from negotiating price on such items. That is also not free market.
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:16 PM
 
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CEO Heather Bresch is the daughter of Joe Manchin who is a Democrat Senator of West Virginia.

The daughter's company donated $ 250,000 to the Clinton Foundation!

No wonder Clinton and other liberals who were so supportive of Obamacare and against price gauging and money hungry medical companies, but never said a word about this enormous price gauging!

When are we holding people responsible as the people who need this Epipen most likely can't afford this price gauging and money hungry CEO and daughter of a Dem. Senator who voted for Obamacare and against the money hungry pharmaceutical companies... except when a family is the CEO the Democrats are silent!
Of course.

Democrats are allowed to rape the public, as they are doing so with "the best of good intentions".

This same mentality among liberals allows them to ignore or support Hillary stealing the nation blind for personal gain.
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:44 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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There is no pay to play, here's an link that may help one understand how Public Humanitarian Agenda and how Private Organizations and Foundations Agenda work in Accord with Commonality within Agenda People who have big money to donate should be responsible enough to find out if the Agenda of a Foundation mirrors the Agenda of a Nations Goals especially when it comes to Humanitarian concerns.

If any of you had millions to donate, be your a private person or an organization, if you are not responsible enough to "COMMUNICATE" to find out and figure out if the national agenda matches with the humanitarian concerns of private organizations before one gives their money to a private organizations one would be foolish, especially if you did not get this information and get it from a reliable source of what is the National Agenda. It is the individuals responsibility to learn and know what the private organizations agenda is, and it is not illegal to discuss the aims of either the nation/nations agenda, as well as that of the private organizations, and if they are in accord.........
If one did not do this research and communication, one would be foolish with their money and irresponsible with their donations. It's just that simple. Don't get lost in drama spins. "there is no pay to play, that is some delusional political gaming of ignorance promotion, to make such a claim. Ignorance finds a way to entertain the ignorant, therefore one should be wise enough to be discerning to gain understanding.


Understanding would certainly serve one well if it was actually pursued and embraced for the sake to be of understanding.

Learning is a wonderful things if people take the time to engage it.

Not many here would go give their money to any charity, until they know that charity's agenda, and they want to know if that agenda is in accord with any city, country, state, or national agenda... first.

Geez!!!! No wonder so many people get fleeced giving to organizations they have not vetted. It just goes to show that common sense is not so common. Therefore people need to learn and understand and gain perspective, that their claim of common sense has a perspective to understand what is commonality, before they claim to be using common sense.

If I want to give to a Charity that does global charity and humanitarian related services, you darn right I want to know not only what is our government doing, but I want to know what are the governments of the other nations I want to help doing, as well as the other nations that I am contributing in association with unto a organizations.

This Trump craziness of trying to mislead the uneducated and unaware, is astounding, No one should try and promote ignorance for the sake of political gain and drama making to promote their ego and egotistical aims.

Don't Join A Posse, if you don't know what its aims and goals are, nor what you are pursuing and why. We've seen the effects of blind driven posse's be demonstrated in the old western movies, and they often engage in unlawful acts, being driven by a loud mouth and a passion for drama.
So tell me, exactly how much of the MONEY it receives does the Clinton Crime Family Foundation actually DONATE? C'mon, how much? How much good have they done in Haiti with the MILLIONS they've been able to scrounge up? By some reports not much at all.

Why are they not rated by the premier foundation rating organization? Hmmm? Why is that?

I understand the Foundation just fine as do many,many other people. It's a slush fund for Bill, Hillary and now their daughter.
Nice try though an EPIC FAIL at providing cover for Hillary, hope she's paying you well though!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/op...oney.html?_r=0

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Old 08-27-2016, 07:08 PM
 
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Mostly wrong. The device was a re-purposing of a military device but has had lots of free market improvements.
The monopoly is at least partially driven by patents not the FDA. It is difficult to make a fully competitive device against the epipen patents that exist. Patents are generally considered free market.
The legislature has barred the government from negotiating price on such items. That is also not free market.
They are no longer a U.S. company. If a company moves their patents should expire with their move.
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Old 08-27-2016, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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They are no longer a U.S. company. If a company moves their patents should expire with their move.
Absurd. Patents don't require citizenship and never have. I personally have a few hundared around the world. Though all are variations of 25 or so in the US.

But the company did not move out of the US. Its ownership did. And there is nothing that keeps a US company from being owned by a foreign company. What we need to do is stop the ability to move the profitability of a company to a foreign company. Tight regulations that prevent the movement of US made profits off shore. Might even make a good part of all nation profits taxable in the US.
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Old 08-27-2016, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Epipen CEO is daughter of Democrat Joe Manchin, Dem Sen. of Virginia. Donation to Clinton Foundation!
Oh, my.....Trump must be paling with jealousy. Wait for the tweets.
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Old 08-27-2016, 07:35 PM
 
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Absurd. Patents don't require citizenship and never have. I personally have a few hundared around the world. Though all are variations of 25 or so in the US.

But the company did not move out of the US. Its ownership did. And there is nothing that keeps a US company from being owned by a foreign company. What we need to do is stop the ability to move the profitability of a company to a foreign company. Tight regulations that prevent the movement of US made profits off shore. Might even make a good part of all nation profits taxable in the US.
Negating their U.S. patents would do that. Besides they shouldn't be able to get a patent on something the taxpayers funded to start with.
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Old 08-27-2016, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Negating their U.S. patents would do that. Besides they shouldn't be able to get a patent on something the taxpayers funded to start with.
Again patents are not limited by citizenship. And will not be.

The patents were not on US funded development. They are on improvements to the device. And the US may well contract with a private developer for a capability while the IP rights stay with the developer. The US may require the right to use those IP rights but not always. Some developers will not do the development if not retaining the rights. A matter of the contract actually negotiated.

Think about it. If you have personal expertise or a team specializing in an area are you going to give away the work product because you use those skills to develop a particular gizmo for the US. Not going to happen if the developer is actually dominant in an area.
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