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Here's the key question: why did the officer shoot so soon after the taser was deployed? Why not wait a second or two and see if the taser was effective? If it was clear that the taser had no effect and the suspect continued to reach into his vehicle then maybe deadly force could be justified at that point. And I don't think I would buy into the argument that there was simply no time to assess the situation subsequent to the taser deployment. If that was the case then why use the taser in the first place rather then going directly to deadly force?
Here's the key question: why did the officer shoot so soon after the taser was deployed? Why not wait a second or two and see if the taser was effective? If it was clear that the taser had no effect and the suspect continued to reach into his vehicle then maybe deadly force could be justified at that point. And I don't think I would buy into the argument that there was simply no time to assess the situation subsequent to the taser deployment. If that was the case then why use the taser in the first place rather then going directly to deadly force?
Most likely when he jerked from the tazer she panicked..
She is a Hollywood moron that doesn't even know what happened.
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Now go look at the still picture that shows blood on the CLOSED window.
I'm one of the people who believes the window was closed.
Do you happen to have that picture link handy so that I don't have to search 50 pages for it?
In the helicopter footage, I see glare reflected on the window indicating it's closed, but with people claiming it was partially open, I'd like to see the zoomed in photo.
It was pretty cut and dried. The guy had no gun--his car stalled out. He approached the police for help. On video.
On the tape, the policewoman is heard shouting "I can't see his hands" "he won't show me his hands" but it was quite easy to see that he had his hands up in the air--way up--everyone could see it. Maybe she needs glasses.
In any event, it really appears that this one is on the cops.
They should have bullrushed him while his hands were up. Instead, they just blew him away so as to not get their uniforms dirty.
I am white, believe the vast majority of police officers are good people, and do not support groups like BLM. Having said that, I also believe that police can legally murder, and know they will get away with it- the system simply will not hold them accountable. If this woman had not been wearing a police uniform, she'd be in jail charged with murder. Since she is a police officer, nothing of note will happen to her- besides bad publicity. She killed an innocent person, and her being a police officer should NOT gain her any sympathy or understanding. She was not justified, no matter how pro police folks want to spin it. He posed no threat. If a civilian walked up and shot and killed a person that was stranded with car trouble, they would get a life sentence. Mark my words- she will not spend one day behind bars- ever.
I'd suggest less street cops and more self and community policing along with a whole lot of community shaming of young offenders.
She is a Hollywood moron that doesn't even know what happened.
I'm one of the people who believes the window was closed.
Do you happen to have that picture link handy so that I don't have to search 50 pages for it?
In the helicopter footage, I see glare reflected on the window indicating it's closed, but with people claiming it was partially open, I'd like to see the zoomed in photo.
I agree with community policing. The us vs. them thing doesn't work. BOTH sides need to see the humanity in people.
Lovehiscountry posted one of the links that shows blood on the window.
And does anyone think it's convenient that she took a class on PCP and now there's PCP in the car?? Or did she mean to use her taser??
I think Crutcher got high on PCP after leaving school and had a bad trip. He became disoriented, stopped in the middle of the road and exited his vehicle.
The cops showed up, and he didn't follow their orders due to his state.
He wasn't aware of the danger and was making irrational decisions when he went to get back in his car to go home.
The police saw him as a threat as he was trying to figure out how to get in his car, and shot him, resulting in his death.
For me, the overall problem is that this will likely be seen as a lawful shoot because it was a perceived threat.
Crutcher should not have been shot for being high. People with medical conditions which could leave them irrational could face the same outcome. Heck, we saw a caregiver shot due to his charge being somewhat irrational.
We can't have a system where people, who are not a threat, get gunned down due to vague notions of threat that allow police too much latitude. At the same time, we can't endanger the lives of police by restricting self defense too much.
As I've said many times, I believe the answer is less armed government agents roaming around looking for suspicious activity.
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