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Old 02-06-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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Please note, it's the black people who overwhelmingly support racism.
Have you seen the drop in the admittance rate of whites to California state colleges since they dropped "AA"? It wasn't just helping blacks get in.

 
Old 02-06-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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That is the same criteria that Jesse Jackson uses when he approach strange blacks on the street.
Is he "most people?" I wasn't aware one person was "most people."

Do you agree with this mentality and behavior? Are you also a huge Jesse Jackson fan?
 
Old 02-06-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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Have you seen the drop in the admittance rate of whites to California state colleges since they dropped "AA"? It wasn't just helping blacks get in.
Why do Black people support AA?
 
Old 02-06-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Been waiting for this.

Please prove it to me that they didn't take advantage of AA.
Prove to me they did? Exactly you have no proof. You assumed that if they were black they didn't earn it.

If Affirmative Action was so prevalent, and so impactful, black unemployment would not be constantly hovering at 2x white unemployment since the 1890s.
 
Old 02-06-2017, 10:44 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're white. If you aren't a person of color in this country, you have no idea what day-to-day life is like for them.
when the threshold for 'racism' is set to zero, everyone and everything has a racial tone and is a potential enemy. A guarantee for an infinite supply of enemies and continuation of seeing racists behind every word and tree.


Important to not direct comments to the black population in general, just the activists and that portion of the black community who has been brainwashed to believe they are hated because of race.


Using race as a political weapon and charge political opposition to obama as racist, makes charges of racism to not be taken seriously.


Be sure to thanks obama and the hillary democrats for causing eyes to roll back when someone moans about racism!


Cudos to Nifong, Sharpton, congressional black caucus, BLM, maxine waters for mitigating the efforts of decades of progress in achieveing racial equality and spitting inthe face of black pioneers like parks and king.


Hyper Sensitivity is taught and the media holds up a magnifying glass to make problems where there are none. NBC doctoring zimmerman's 911 call was the stuff of a propaganda machine..
 
Old 02-06-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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Why do Black people support AA?
The history of our country whereas black people were denied access to education and employment opportunities in large numbers....(FYI, this is still an issue to many black people - we are aware, as the OP article points out that racial bias is a "thing"). This stuff occurred readily not too long ago and it is silly IMO to believe that the biases that caused that denial of access have miraculously disappeared in the past 45 years.
 
Old 02-06-2017, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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by that logic, you should treat every single person on earth like a criminal because people of all walks of life commit crime. But, here we are only applying it to "good blacks and hood rats".

And that is textbook racism to think that "blacks that i don't know are criminals, the ones that proves themselves worthy to my judgement are okay".

Hilarious that yall try to put roses around this way of thinking and expect people not to see through it.
I personally don't trust anyone right away, but that's not really my point. I was saying that certain people get categorized negatively due to the "bad apples" in that category. The young guy with his hoodie up, the teenagers with skateboards, middle aged biker guys...pit bulls if you want to go interspecies...all stupid stereotypes. The thing is, the hoodie up, the skateboard, the bike and tattoos, the dog - all have a percentage of their population that is known for higher levels of aggression, or some other characteristic that makes them a threat. Even if most are completely peaceful, the bad ones have tarnished the reputation of that category of people/dog.

It's not even about race usually. It's the old example about if you see a young white guy with his hood up walking toward you at night, or you see an elderly black man in nicer clothes walking toward you, who do you feel more safe around?

I'm not saying I like it, but just that it makes sense...especially when you bring psychology and evolution into it. All intelligent life does this. You see a tiger and your brain automatically brings up your/others' experience with tigers, and if there's a higher danger level you're more cautious. Maybe your experience or impression is wrong, but I think in the examples I gave it's pretty rational to be cautious.
 
Old 02-06-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Transition Island
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Yeah but white people who do and sell drugs don't do it on street corners in residential areas in broad daylight, and whites involved in drugs do not kill or rob as much as blacks involved in drugs do. I can take you to a street corner in a mostly black area where I used to live near in my city. On the block you'll spot 15-20 crackheads at any given time, all of them black. A few crack dealers, also black. A few prostitutes, black. And random thugs that roam the area. They do this in broad daylight in front of the police all day every day, all of them black along with random bums trying to sell you stolen electronics.

Drinking in public, smoking weed and crack in public, arguing, fistfights, etc. every week there's a shooting. Last year in 2 separate instances a 4 year old and a 70 year old were killed by stray bullets. Blacks who use and sell drugs are targeted by police because of the problems some of them bring that can't be ignored, the violence.

White druggies call there white dealer who doesn't even own a gun, has a job and goes to college, and get stoned watching TV at the house. So do a lot of black druggies too, but too many black druggies and dealers are in the streets and bring violence and robberies to the game. This is why they are targeted.
There are white heroine addicts doing drugs in the parking lots where they buy their drugs from the dealers in the black neighborhoods. Check out these video:
For years, dealer sold heroin out of Short Pump parking lots | WTVR.com
OD caught on videotape, suspect arrested on old charges | WKRC
 
Old 02-06-2017, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Frisco, Texas
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Spoken like a person who doesn't endure anti-black racism. "It hasn't happened to me so it must not exist."
RACISM does not exist to the extent that you continue to cry about in every facet of life. I am Hispanic, and have never dealt with a racist, but I have met people that are prejudice. Unless you are talking about things like Nazi Germany , Imperial Japan, the old KKK, those groups believed their race is superior to others. What you and every other person deal with is a prejudice based on stereotypes. It is human nature to do so. If you are different you will be cautiously judged in the mind of people based on what they may think. The color of your skin, the country of origin, the neighborhood you group up in, your height, your smell, your level of education, the way you speak; all these things and more are up to criticism in the human mind until you prove on how you conduct yourself. Even then you wont satisfy everyone's standards.


The black people of America and in Africa and throughout the world have endured this prejudice, because yes, they look different. Many slaves in America had to endured true racism in the early years of this nation, but not just in America, but in Africa as well. The stronger tribes in Africa believing they were superior would conquer other tribes and even sell the enslaved conquered to the Europeans. Even today, many blacks in Africa believe the stereotype and don't speak kindly of African Americans. So tell me, are they racist?


This post is of a black successful middle to upper class family in Dallas that felt fearful because they were black?? If a suspect was reported to be black wearing whatever, guess who the authorities are going to be looking for? They are not victims of racism, they were indirect victims of the circumstances created by a criminal act. What matters in the long run is how you conduct yourself in regards to the culture you live in.
 
Old 02-06-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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1 - I wasn't complaining, I was giving ancedotal evidence that supported the article in response to another poster's comment.
Yeah, I realized that.

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2 - Uhm... I didn't specify what opportunities I have been given that I don't think I could have gotten in other countries. Truth is, almost all our citizens in this country enjoy privileges, opportunities, and access to resources that don't exist elsewhere. We are an affluent country. Saying this does not mean, nor imply, that citizens of other countries do not enjoy a good standard of living.
I know you did not specify what opportunities, no need to bother because you're parroting something you have always heard other United Statesians say born out of pure ignorance. I read a biography of Hugo Chavez, I've read one of former President of Brazil "Lula," and I know women in Brazil outperform women in the US in a multitude of categories (e.g., why women make up a minority of dentist in the USA they make up the majority of dentist in Brazil--with dentistry, engineering, law, and being a medical doctor being the traditional professions of the upper-class) no one rises from the bottom in the USA like Chavez or Lula had. No one.

In terms of female doctors the US scored in 17th place among this list of wealthy high income nations.

Countries Compared by Labor > Female doctors. International Statistics at NationMaster.com

What opportunities could the former President of Chile have gotten in the US, especially as a black or Latina raised in a ghetto, or a white girl raised in some impoverished home in rural Kentucky where both her parents are meth addicts?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Bachelet

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Bachelet, a physician with studies in military strategy, was Health Minister and Defense Minister under her predecessor, Ricardo Lagos. She is a separated mother of three and describes herself as an agnostic.[2] Aside from her native Spanish, she also speaks, with varying levels of fluency, English, German, Portuguese and French.[3][4] She is a member of the Socialist Party of Chile.
A President of a country that spoke 5 languages, was a medical doctor (in the US politicians and presidents are almost always lawyers, no doctors), educated in military strategy at a war college, a woman, single mother, agnostic in one of the most conservative Catholic countries on earth, and a socialist. What grand opportunities would she have received in the ghettos of Chicago or Houston that she could not have obtained in Chile?

It is true the US has an outstanding infrastructure and resources accessible to even its under class that most in the impoverished developing world would envy. I for one would rather be materially poor in the USA than in Brazil, India, or even Chile. But relative to other high income nations of the West the US does not extend safety and resources large swaths of its working class and poor citizens as nearly as it likes to brag at "doing the best in."

But to be honest, what irked me more about your post was the incoherency in its aristocratic tone with an insinuation of the USA being a near paradise but with minor occasions your educated black husband has to be subject to the indignities that ought be left among the American serfs. Too boot, if Canada, Germany, and England are soooooooooo bad for black men of education and money then your husband is lucky he got pulled over by the benevolent and soft spoken American police. Because had he gotten pulled over in Canada, Germany, or England the cops there would have shot him dead. Because black people don't get shot dead by American police, that is something that only happens in Canada, Germany, and England. Due to "the opportunities" afforded in the USA that blacks in those countries are not fortunate to receive.

Like Canada's, Germany's, and England's Skid Row even though metro LA is so affluent it has a GDP about equal that of the entire country of the Netherlands.

Glory and blessing of living in secular America an affluent country:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=juMX31y329E

Or the sheer hell of living in a Muslim country a nation of poverty, ignorance, and misery:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dtaWkeOjvyA

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3 - It isn't a minor inconvenience to be pulled over by the police simply because they think you stole your own car and are made to lay on the ground with your hands up so they can cuff you, then are sat on the side of the road handcuffed for all those passing by to gawk at, while they call in your license and plates over a car that certainly wasn't reported stolen. This all occurs despite the fact that your state issued license with your picture, military ID with your picture, insurance information, and car registration all have the same name and other information on them. It definitely is not minor when it occurs more than once or twice in a lifetime, let alone a year, as was in this case.
It's minor if he would have otherwise ended up dead in Canada, Germany, or England.

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Not sure what I wrote that got you in such a a state of outrage but it is not unreasonable for me to point out that while I love this country and think it is totally awesome, it isn't prefect.
The aristocratic tone, insinuation of a near paradise in the USA as well, then to aristocrarically bemoan minor inconveniences in a nation that is a near paradise while the rest of humanity from Canada, England, Japan, Italy, Qatar are daily in tears and anguish due to the scorching heat of hell, misery, and oppression they crawl through every day.

I say aristocratic because I went to a predominately white Catholic high school and I'm familiar with the attitude of some black people that think a rank and status in their life should shield them from what the lowly inferior people of the world must go through. The lowly poor blacks or poor whites that is.

The "I played by the rules" thing is symptomatic of that aristocratic perception of one's self. What rules? The ones were some individuals or teams f---ing lose, like this past Super Bowl?

One has choices and in a sense everyone plays within the rules. Even the bank robber. That's why he runs when the cops come chasing him. They both are playing within the rules. But the hard fact is no matter what road you choose to go down consequences come with that. Some on here praise living in violent rat infested City of Compton and raising their f---ing children in that environment even if they have the means not to. The Dallas family kids speak of the psychological challenges they have in their affluent environment. Yet, when it comes to being black and reared around frequent threats of violence, girls only picking drug dealers or gang bangers to go out with, an environment where to fit in you must become like others in your environment, then all of a sudden masses of people dismiss the impact of those environments and blame the individual.

So, I applaud these black Dallas parents choosing to rear their black kids in an affluent area. My parents had the money to move out of our violent neighborhood but for good or ill made the choice not to. Choices. Consequences. Can't escape them. That black couple could live in a black Compton or a black inner-city section of Dallas. But that comes with a different set of consequences. Either way they choose they are in fact playing by the rules. Otherwise opt out of the American rules and move to Canada, Germany, England or somewhere and play by their rules.
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