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View Poll Results: Has Kelly Griffin gone too far? - holding up bloody Trump head.
No - free speech 23 17.97%
Yes - an apology is needed 56 43.75%
Yes - ban her from New Years Rock'n Eve 49 38.28%
Voters: 128. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-31-2017, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Originally Posted by Docendo discimus View Post
Kathy Griffin is a D list 'celebrity', not a B list one.
I had no idea who she was. At first, I thought Kathy Lee Gifford, and I thought that such a stunt would be out of character for her. Then I Googled the name and thought "Who the hell is this lady?"

Good to see it was on Trump's radar though. This is a man who clearly cannot be distracted from the issues.

 
Old 05-31-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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While it was supposed to be a joke by a comedian, it was no laughing matter. I am glad she has apologized as she should have. Things like this are not good. Whether it was Kathy Griffin, Wayne Allyn Root at at Trump rally fantasizing about Hillary's death, Trump adviser and regular rally speaker Al Baldasaro calling for Hillary to be put in front of a firing squad, or Donald Trump's insinuation that gun owners take Hillary out. None of this is acceptable.
I find it fascinating that some would continue to make excuse for Kathy Griffin.

It was no joke or mistake. She deliberately planned, acquired props, and produced this completely reprehensible video. And she only "apologized" once she realized that her blunder was going to hit her right in the pocketbook.
 
Old 05-31-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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Why would she even do this? She MUST have known this was a bad idea beforehand.

Sick
 
Old 05-31-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Chambers County
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Since she does not work for CNN, they would have to hire first if they want to fire her. r.
WRONG.

From Yahoo: CNN said it is “evaluating” its relationship with Griffin.

“We found what she did disgusting and offensive,” the network said in a statement. “We are pleased to see she has apologized and asked that the photos be taken down. We are evaluating our New Year’s Eve coverage and have made no decisions at this point.”

Griffin’s photo caught the attention of the U.S. Secret Service, which noted that such “threats against [our] protectees receive the highest priority of all of our investigations.”
 
Old 05-31-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: My House
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Of course you don't. She's on your team.
I don't do "teams."

And I don't like her. At all.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I am glad that there are a lot of clear thinking liberals who don't support her action.
 
Old 05-31-2017, 08:36 AM
 
Location: My House
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Can you explain why you don't find it "shocking"

What is shocking to you?

When I read your post I thought what

Decided to see what your definition of shocking or gross is in this situation
It's just a fake head with fake blood on it. How is it "shocking?"

It's gross. It looks gross. It was a pointless display of her lack of sense and decorum.

If she beheaded someone? I'd find that shocking.

Come on. How many times do you think people saw effigies of Obama hung by a noose at protest parades?

Was that "shocking?"

It wasn't to me. It was in poor taste and I found it rather sad, but it did not shock me.

I know people are jerks.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:38 AM
 
Location: My House
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I'm leftist and I'm like uhhhh. No one is saying she can't exercise her free speech.

Regardless of Trump, he's still the sitting President.

But on top of that, it's just a human thing. The guy has a family and kids and friends. But no one is saying anything about free speech here.

But, like others who post things that are hateful, she deserves the consequences of her actions now. She willingly knew what she was doing. She literally made a video about it showing multiple people working on this. Then offers an fake apology when even the left were attacking her for it. She thought even the left would back her up on this one, that's why she did it.

But there's a difference between "Trump is a racist bigot" and "Oh look I'm holding Trump's bloody cutoff head like I'm in ISIS".
I agree with you, sonny.

I think that apology thing was lame, too. If I was going to do something that I knew would draw that much criticism, I wouldn't apologize for it.

It's not like this was on a whim. She planned it.

Ugh.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:38 AM
 
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OF COURSE they will! The "network of hate" is so proud of her ISIS inspired terroristic threat of our President!
I doubt it -- she was pretty slammed even by all those liberals.

She's toast.
 
Old 05-31-2017, 08:41 AM
 
Location: My House
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They also weren't done with mainstream celebrities or anyone who worked with CNN, though. Big difference.

I'm not sure why people keep using this excuse. Both were wrong, but...Kathy Griffin is actually a celebrity with influence. Not some random redneck hick in Alabama.
Well, they are similar and they are different.

Similar in that if you're not going to say you're shocked and outraged over people hanging effigies of Obama, you really cannot claim that Kathy Griffin holding up a fake, bloody head is "shocking," you know?

However, celebrities and other people of influence do have to be mindful of their audience and the manner in which they express themselves. There are more consequences likely for people in positions of power. Kind of like why it matters that Trump tweeted a weird typo last night and dozed off to leave it for the entire world to see and it was a huge deal, but if Donny the parking attendant did it, some of his friends mind tease him, or it might go viral, but nobody would really care.

Who you are matters.
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