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So there is no such thing as contracts which are unwritten?
Let's talk real world. Said Bakery places advertisements everywhere (web site, store windows, handouts, newspapers) which say "cakes for ALL occasions".
Should they then - after promising this - decide late which occasions they serve?
The same goes for other businesses and promotion/marketing. Should a business be able to market itself as fully inclusive and "the place where everyone goes" with "100% satisfaction" and then so "ennie meanie minny moe" once a customer comes through the door?
The problem with debating this particular issue is that businesses are very different. Some engage in interstate commerce - others in health care - others in licensed business where they have agreed in one form or another to serve everyone.
Even someone like me - who believes in basic public accommodation law, would have no problem with being thrown out of an eatery for not being dressed to their (advertised) standard. Or, to be refused service due to acting out in a loud manner, etc.
But these are not discriminatory based on creed, religion, sex, age, etc. - they apply to all equally.
I could even be convinced that certain businesses under X revenue with a single location where the product is also available elsewhere....may have more rights to pick and choose their customers.
As a consultant (I was in retail for 20 years, tho, so I know my basics!)....I definitely get to pick and choose my clients. But I don't think I would be allowed to place an ad saying "No followers of Islam need apply".
So - in summary - different businesses differ! Where the "line" is will be up to the courts. Like it or not we live in a "society" and business is regulated.
We can regulate ourselves privately. That's all I'm saying. You don't need an involuntary 3rd party to settle your disputes.
The answer choices should have included "it depends on the circumstance".
An answer of "Not sure" doesn't cut it for me, as I'm pretty sure where businesses have an obligation to serve and where they have the right to reject a "customer".
They shouldn't be allowed to refuse service due to religious beliefs. They are running a business. They need to leave their religious beliefs at home when dealing with the public.
Agreed. And until God shows his/her face to us and tells us he/she doesn't approve of whatever type of people, using religion is no excuse for refusing to offer services. I am sick to death for people using their invisible God as an excuse to hate others. It's interesting how God's opinion on gays/blacks/Jews/Muslims/Chinese/destitute/ugly/disabled/whatever people always coincides with their own. And saying, "It's not inconvenient to go to another business" is untrue as well. It doesn't matter if I only have to walk ten feet down the block to ask for services somewhere else; other people's bigotry is inconvenient.
Why is Chick-Fil-A allowed to close on Sunday? Why can't I buy beer before noon on Sunday? So many questions. Let people do whatever they want. If it's stupid or bigoted, it will probably come back to haunt them.
Im not sure how else to say that a private business is not a public business. The owner has the right to serve or not serve someone for any reason, because it's his/her stuff, not the public's stuff or the government's stuff.
I almost think some people view the world like a classroom where the authority makes people get along. This isn't school where the teacher is in charge and forces the kids to apologize and make up.
Im not sure how else to say that a private business is not a public business. The owner has the right to serve or not serve someone for any reason, because it's his/her stuff, not the public's stuff or the government's stuff.
I almost think some people view the world like a classroom where the authority makes people get along. This isn't school where the teacher is in charge and forces the kids to apologize and make up.
Uncle Sam is your daddy, your mommy, your shrink, your provider, and your teacher.
I think the only thing it isn't is your actual uncle.
If you are in business I hope what you are looking for is for $$$. You should not get involved in people lives, just sell your goods at a market price. Period!
If we start dicing- the cashier with the purple hair and earing in her nose- won't take your money at the grocery store, the black barber won't cut your kids hair - the Indian doctor won't operate on you- the white fireman won't put out the fire at your mosque, the clothing store won't sell you your husband's pants- and hubby can't buy you that lacy nitey for your anniversary--
it can get that ridiculous
If you are in business I hope what you are looking for is for $$$. You should not get involved in people lives, just sell your goods at a market price. Period!
If we start dicing- the cashier with the purple hair and earing in her nose- won't take your money at the grocery store, the black barber won't cut your kids hair - the Indian doctor won't operate on you- the white fireman won't put out the fire at your mosque, the clothing store won't sell you your husband's pants- and hubby can't buy you that lacy nitey for your anniversary--
it can get that ridiculous
It would be ridiculous but they have that right. Maybe they should stop being petty and get along, but me forcing them to makes me the bad guy. I don't own their business or their lives. I can only use social pressure and try to convince others to do the same.
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