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Old 04-08-2018, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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As long as their is capitalism, there will always be "takers"; it's a side effect, as there is a legally determined minimum standard of living in this country (anti-homeless laws and occupancy laws) and that has a minimum dollar figure attached to it
1. This ain't capitalism.

2. I'd love to abolish the State as you know but we are on the same page with abolishing the anti-homeless laws and occupancy laws).
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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The idea that there are "deserving" and undeserving poor is at least as old as Dickens. How about a little compassion for all the poor?
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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The idea that there are "deserving" and undeserving poor is at least as old as Dickens. How about a little compassion for all the poor?
how about humility from the poor, if people are helping them of charity, they shouldnt be expecting it at every turn or get mad when they get turned down
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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Sorry, that’s punished. You’re basically saying to a class of people that they didn’t have a good enough job to get more benefits. 10 K in food stamps for a family of say 4 wouldn’t even last you 2 years.
They can then return to work to earn more. The earnings basis would not be a single year, simply your last trip to being On The Dole. Plus, married couples, should be allowed to be 10x total family taxable income.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:46 PM
 
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how about humility from the poor, if people are helping them of charity, they shouldnt be expecting it at every turn or get mad when they get turned down
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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As long as their is capitalism, there will always be "takers"; it's a side effect, as there is a legally determined minimum standard of living in this country (anti-homeless laws and occupancy laws) and that has a minimum dollar figure attached to it
They should take from charity, as their great grandparents did in soup lines (not gov't run) during the Great Depression of the late 20s and 30s.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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how about humility from the poor, if people are helping them of charity, they shouldnt be expecting it at every turn or get mad when they get turned down
You mean like the greedy CEOs who throw a fit when they don't get their cheap labor illegals or H1Bs? It works both ways you know.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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They can then return to work to earn more. The earnings basis would not be a single year, simply your last trip to being On The Dole. Plus, married couples, should be allowed to be 10x total family taxable income.
Not if it’s too expensive to send the kids to day care.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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They should take from charity, as their great grandparents did in soup lines (not gov't run) during the Great Depression of the late 20s and 30s.
Charity usually helps out once a month and only for a certain amount of times per year. The need is greater than the supply so that’s not quite an answer either
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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Not if it’s too expensive to send the kids to day care.
Their choice. Those paying taxes pay childcare.

Plus you said family of 4, the other spouse can work.
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